Ok...I think I've finally got it figured...BUT...(of course there is always a but....) How the heck do I delete a contact group that already exists? I've tried cscript lcsaddcontacts.wsf /userfiles:text.txt (contains only me) /contactsgroup:listedgroup /delete
it just complains and shows me the syntax of the command On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: > I may have added to the confusion by being all wordy and less then precise. > > All of our teams have a team based distribution list are build > using #Name format and managed by the teams manager. So to make up some > names for example purposes > #Windows Applications > #Windows Infrastructure > #Accounting > #NE Sales > #SW Sales > #Management > > You can just have people add those 'identified/targetted' distribution > lists to the local Communicator contacts. The membership will dynamically > update. I still prefer my inidvidual lists, but as an alternative to > pushing out contacts and maintaining them via scheduled updates, you can > leverage existing distribution lists or make some up special for this > purpose and just tell people to add them via documentation. > > Steven Peck > http://www.blkmtn.org > > > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Cameron <[email protected]>wrote: > >> You mention something interesting (we do have OCS2007r2)...target >> distribution groups? Sounds like a much better way to go. >> Any pointers? >> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ya, we created documentation on adding contacts and it became a manager >>> issue if they cared (LCS2005sp1 less tools) which it turns out they did >>> not. With OCS2007r2 you can just target distribution groups and their >>> membership will dynamically update so that may be a less painful route to >>> go. If posible, I would try to edge your management to away from 'mandated >>> minimum standard contacts'. >>> >>> Let's see, right now the average number of contacts per user here is >>> 34.64 (I wonder if being .64 of a contact hurts?). Our highest is 162 >>> contacts. >>> >>> Good luck with that, some management teams seem enamored with the >>> illusion of top down dictates. >>> >>> Steven Peck >>> http://www.blkmtn.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:16 AM, James Rankin >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> I had to do that in a previous job. It can be done with those scripts >>>> but it is fairly non-dynamic when it comes to updating users who have left, >>>> etc. You could do it with some form of scripting querying AD but it's a big >>>> fudge. >>>> >>>> In the end we opted to set up a script to auto-enable every user for OCS >>>> and then simply allowed them to create their own contact groups. >>>> Administratively it was a huge PITA to maintain these "contact sets". We >>>> put >>>> together a document detailing how to set up contact groups, how to use OCS >>>> for dialing people from Outlook, etc. and sent it to every user after >>>> they'd >>>> been enabled for the software. In the long run this was probably more >>>> productive. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15 April 2011 17:12, Cameron <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Actually...that's what I've been *asked* to setup...a minimum 'set' of >>>>> contacts from the various locations grouped by function, etc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> OK wait, I think there is some confusion here. Yes, OCS is a >>>>>> Microsoft Product. Microsoft purchased the technology that became Live >>>>>> Communications Server 2003 and released LCS2005 soon afterwards. >>>>>> OCS2007 is >>>>>> really more in the mode MS likes and OCS2007r2 included nice >>>>>> improvements. >>>>>> >>>>>> All the above said, OCS is a communications tool built on the SIP >>>>>> protocol and is constrained by that model ( >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol) and is not >>>>>> like email despite it being positioned next to Exchanage in the MS >>>>>> messaging >>>>>> suite. >>>>>> >>>>>> SIP leans more towards subscription and OCS overall is a messaging and >>>>>> presence tool. When you 'add a contact' you are really 'subscribing' to >>>>>> that contacts presence status. That person is so likely to be someone >>>>>> you >>>>>> interact with, that it is important that you are 'notified' of their >>>>>> presence status so that you can communicate more effectively with them. >>>>>> Everytime a person in your contacts status changes (away, in a meeting, >>>>>> busy, do not disturb) that change is 'pushed' to all clients with a >>>>>> subscription to that person. This adds load do the database and >>>>>> environment >>>>>> and I think the default contacts (subscriptions) per person is 100 (as in >>>>>> each person can have 100 people add them to their contact list, we've set >>>>>> ours to 200). If a person is not someone that you interact with on a >>>>>> regular basis, then why would you want them in your cntacts list? Just >>>>>> look >>>>>> them up in the address book or see their status in the latest email you >>>>>> got >>>>>> from them in Outlook. >>>>>> >>>>>> An example, I have in my contacts list all the members of my team and >>>>>> the two other windows team and associated managers. I have specific >>>>>> individuals from our help desk and the database team and a few people I >>>>>> lunch with and two project managers whose projects I am a resource on >>>>>> and I >>>>>> will remove the PMs as soon as the project is done (40 people). Anyone >>>>>> else, >>>>>> I get out of the address book, I don't normally care what their status' >>>>>> is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Distribution lists can be added to a persons contact list and these >>>>>> will update membership locally but generally these are client driven >>>>>> operations, not pushed out globally. There are tools/scripts to do this, >>>>>> but it's not generally how any of the tools in this space operate even >>>>>> though it can be done. When we first implemented it here some managers >>>>>> wanted to force a standard 'contacts' list to everyone but we were >>>>>> fortunatly able to brign them around and not do that. >>>>>> >>>>>> What are you looking to do? Force 'standard' contact lists? That >>>>>> will be an unfortunate adminstrative burden for you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steven Peck >>>>>> http://www.blkmtn.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Cameron >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yep, the resource kit is installed and I've been looking at them. The >>>>>>> problem with trying to automate the jobs will be that I can't just do >>>>>>> it by >>>>>>> OU (to break the users into groups) unless I want to start moving people >>>>>>> around and verifying the GPO's against them. Though it may be something >>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>> do in the future to make the mgmt of this easier. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:02 AM, James Rankin <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are some wsf files in "c:\Program Files\Microsoft Office >>>>>>>> Communications Server 2007\ResKit\WMI Samples" that can help with some >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the automated tasks, if you have the resource kit installed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 15 April 2011 14:00, Cameron <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok..so it looks like I jumped to a conclusion that it would fully >>>>>>>>> integrate with AD seeing how it's a MS product. I *thought* that the >>>>>>>>> contacts were tied to AD and were pushed automatically based on some >>>>>>>>> AD >>>>>>>>> setting. I've just started reading about this and can't believe how >>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>> hoops you have to go through to push the contacts out, esp if you >>>>>>>>> want to >>>>>>>>> group them (not using OU's). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, at least it's Friday! >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Cameron >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Normaly OCS just runs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Recently I had a simliar issue after a data center power loss >>>>>>>>>> (maintenence work on UPS, cut back over to UPS, UPS went POP, server >>>>>>>>>> room >>>>>>>>>> went dark, team came in at 2am to power on very surprised servers >>>>>>>>>> [new UPS >>>>>>>>>> ordered, we have a trailer UPS wired in right now]) I had to nuke >>>>>>>>>> the files >>>>>>>>>> and syncnow to correct a corrupt address book issue. However, if >>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>> address book is working normally you will have a few hundred files >>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> this. In my ABS directory I have 931 items dating back a little >>>>>>>>>> over 30 >>>>>>>>>> days. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> here's a link on how it works: >>>>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee323492(office.13).aspx >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't understand the second question. OCS2007r2 will see >>>>>>>>>> distribution lists are groups in the address list all on it's own. >>>>>>>>>> If you >>>>>>>>>> mean something else let us know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Steven Peck >>>>>>>>>> http://www.blkmtn.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Cameron < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Good morning all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> After knocking my head against various problems with the setup >>>>>>>>>>> (thank you very much Mr. Consultant). I now have them sorted, but I >>>>>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions. >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Can I delete all the created address book files (there are >>>>>>>>>>> over 500 Delta and Fulls) and then force an 'abserver -syncnow' to >>>>>>>>>>> recreate >>>>>>>>>>> a 'now' version of the gal? (yes I know I'd have to delete the >>>>>>>>>>> galcontacts.db to get it to recreate). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. The consultant somehow managed to create groups that the users >>>>>>>>>>> are being put in to, and I have NO idea where he did that. 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