Thanks folk - I am more educated already.  For you Mitel folks, what sort of 
VLAN/QoS did you configure on your switches.  Looking at my switches, I see 
there are already a number of VIOP vendors built in for QoS, but not Mitel, so 
I'd need to add it.  


>>> "Stringham, Steven" <[email protected]> 5/2/2011 1:21 PM >>>

Tom
We have a Mitel 3300mxe phone network with 5340 phones on the desks. We put 
this in about 4 years ago.
 
I replaced the older switches with 3560 POE switches and have the PCs behind 
the phones. We are able to put microswitches behind these (so you could have a 
PC and a printer, etc.). 
 
We have had some issues with phones acting up, so that we got bad throughput at 
the PC. Replacing the phone takes care of that. Spares are important.  
 
Getting phones with a completely digital display is wonderfull. I am so glad 
not to have to print out templates for phones anymore, because it is all on the 
display. Select your phone carefully.
 
We have 8 sites across our MPLS network. Some smaller sites (across T1s or even 
DSL VPNs) are being hosted by a 3300mxe on the other side of the wan.  
Communication is great. Max latency is about 40-50, sometimes as high as 100ms 
when in high traffic. Voice is still good.  One of the capabilities of Mitel is 
having a phone across the internet (for example - having a phone at home on 
your main switch). This works very, very well.
 
I absolutely agree - get good POE switches, and put decent UPS units supporting 
those switches.  Also be very careful on your switch/phone selection. Different 
POE devices support different power draws. There are several standard levels of 
power draw. Some POE switches will support a maximum power draw. For example, 
the 5340s take about 6.1 watts. The ports on my 3560 support 15.4 watts. 
However, my 48 port switches will only support 24 ports at the full 15.4 watts. 
But, it can take the full 48 ports at 6.1 watts.  If I put GigE phones in, they 
would take the 15.4 watts level - so I could not put a full compliment of 
phones on my 48 ports switches.  
 
Good Luck

 
From: Tom Miller [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VOIP design questions

Folks,
 
We are planning to retire our current phone system and move to a Mitel VOIP 
system.  Not having implemented VOIP before, I have some questions for those of 
you that have:
 
- our vendor claims our current data network can easily handle VOIP traffic 
since it's a small amount of traffic (don't know exact amount yet, still 
awaiting vendor response).  As such, they tell it is possible to use our 
current network to accommodate voice and data.  I'm not sure if I"m comfortable 
with this.  I was thinking of a more segregated approach:  different network 
and voice and data never intersect.  
- our vendor claims we can use the existing data jack for the phones, and plug 
the desktop PCs/laptops into the phone as a sort of switch.  I'm thinking this 
would add another level of complexity:  phone is broke and by the way you can't 
get on the network now.
- the reason the vendor suggests the above is that the current voice drops 
(cat5) terminate to phone patch panels (in most cases). Those cables would need 
to be cut and re-terminated to switches.  
 
So I have some concerns about our vendor claims.  The dollar figure they 
propose does not include network changes, new switches, etc.  Looking at the 
cost proposal, I am thinking there are quite a few hardware and man-hours costs 
missing.
 
What do you folks do for VOIP?
 
Thanks,
Tom


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