I was never referring to sales demos as PM's do those rarely.  I was
talking about PM & research dept visits.  We visited countless small
companies on those trips again repeating myself to show the roadmap or demo
some cool potential technology we were validating to put in a future
product.

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 7:38 AM Randy Little <[email protected]> wrote:

> They do not share with small shops like they share with big shops.
> Visiting and demoing is not the same thing.  I have seen both and it's not
> even remotely the same kind of relationships.  Well right now they aren't
> having good relationships with a whole lot of people.  Tech support in
> weeks is kind of still a total joke from what used to be hours or at worst
> a day.
>
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>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Deke Kincaid <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> They are probably more open as Deke said to VERY LARGE SPECIAL clients
> under NDA.
>
>
> No, this is not true.  When I was at the Foundry it was very important to
> visit companies of all sizes every time the PM's came out to visit.  It is
> definitely not limited to only large/special clients.  I guarantee for
> every large customer they also see 2-3x as many small 3-20 person shops
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Randy Little <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> legal liability among other reasons.  even when showing R & D they will
> say future version if that.   That gives them until forever. They are
> probably more open as Deke said to VERY LARGE SPECIAL clients under NDA.
>
> Randy S. Little
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> Gotham on Fox.
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> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Marty Blumen <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Thx! Bummer though, a public roadmap could be needed too.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 10/12/2016, at 9:13 AM, Deke Kincaid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Most of us sign NDA's and can't talk about this.  The Foundry typically
> only talks about this when they visit in person to get feedback on it.
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Marten Blumen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Is there a roadmap for Nuke?  'Maintenance' is coming around and v10.5
> doesn't appear to do too much. v11 is already in the bug tracker for some
> bug resolvements; Roto++ is a disparate Foundry development that supersedes
> Nuke's tech; 'Lead Software Engineer - Nuke Engine' kind of sounds like
> Houdini Engine. etc.
>
> Thanks!
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