On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:33 AM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:28 AM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:15 AM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 9:32 AM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Today both of the python.org mailing lists I'm subscribed to (numpy
>>>> and scipy-dev) got the same kind of link shortener spam. I assume all the
>>>> mailing lists started getting these, and that these won't go away for a
>>>> while.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see these on
>>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/, nor
>>> did I receive them (and I did check my spam folder). Do you see it in the
>>> archive, or do you understand why you do receive them?
>>>
>>
>> Sorry for not being specific: they were sent as replies to the latest
>> thread on each list, see e.g. at the bottom (6th email, 5th reply) of
>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/thread/BLCIC2WMJQ5VT6HJSUW4V5TNGQ36JQXI/
>>
>
> Found the permalink: (warning, spam link there)
> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/message/MWI6AKF4QNQ45532MVA3XOXYW5GDFL6O/
>

Thanks!


>>>
>>>> Is there any way to prevent these, short of moderating emails from new
>>>> list members? Assuming the engine even supports that. There aren't many
>>>> emails, especially from new members, and I can't think of other ways that
>>>> ensure no false positives in filtering.
>>>>
>>>
We don't have admin access to the python.org lists, so this is a bit of a
problem. We have never had a spam problem, so we can ask to block this user
first. If it continues to happen, we may be able to moderate new subscriber
emails, but we do need to ask for permissions first and I'm not sure we'll
get them.

A better solution longer term is migrating to Discourse, which has far
better moderation tools than Mailman and is also more approachable for
people not used to mailing lists (which is most newcomers to open source).
Migrating is a bit of a pain, but with the new CZI grant having a focus on
improving the contributor experience, we should be able to do this.

Cheers,
Ralf



>
>>>> Since maintainer time is precious, I can volunteer to moderate such
>>>> emails if needed.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> AndrĂ¡s
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