I'd like to reheat the proposition that we enable discussion feature on GitHub for the repos. Not only this makes things a bit more streamlined (transfer nonbug reports to discussions to handle noise there) but also makes it easier to control the discussions. Moreover since it is GitHub there are API-based ways to import mailing lists for NumPy and SciPy with a bit less effort.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:11 PM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:02 PM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:33 AM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:28 AM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:15 AM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 9:32 AM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Today both of the python.org mailing lists I'm subscribed to (numpy >>>>>> and scipy-dev) got the same kind of link shortener spam. I assume all the >>>>>> mailing lists started getting these, and that these won't go away for a >>>>>> while. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't see these on >>>>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/, >>>>> nor did I receive them (and I did check my spam folder). Do you see it in >>>>> the archive, or do you understand why you do receive them? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry for not being specific: they were sent as replies to the latest >>>> thread on each list, see e.g. at the bottom (6th email, 5th reply) of >>>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/thread/BLCIC2WMJQ5VT6HJSUW4V5TNGQ36JQXI/ >>>> >>> >>> Found the permalink: (warning, spam link there) >>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/message/MWI6AKF4QNQ45532MVA3XOXYW5GDFL6O/ >>> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >>>>> >>>>>> Is there any way to prevent these, short of moderating emails from >>>>>> new list members? Assuming the engine even supports that. There aren't >>>>>> many >>>>>> emails, especially from new members, and I can't think of other ways that >>>>>> ensure no false positives in filtering. >>>>>> >>>>> >> We don't have admin access to the python.org lists, so this is a bit of >> a problem. We have never had a spam problem, so we can ask to block this >> user first. If it continues to happen, we may be able to moderate new >> subscriber emails, but we do need to ask for permissions first and I'm not >> sure we'll get them. >> > > Unfortunately (but unsurprisingly) there are multiple accounts doing this > https://mail.python.org/archives/search?q=bit.ly&page=1&sort=date-desc > This is why I figured that an _a posteriori_ whack-a-mole against these > specific users might not be a feasible solution to the underlying problem. > > András > > > >> A better solution longer term is migrating to Discourse, which has far >> better moderation tools than Mailman and is also more approachable for >> people not used to mailing lists (which is most newcomers to open source). >> Migrating is a bit of a pain, but with the new CZI grant having a focus on >> improving the contributor experience, we should be able to do this. >> >> Cheers, >> Ralf >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> Since maintainer time is precious, I can volunteer to moderate such >>>>>> emails if needed. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> András >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NumPy-Discussion mailing list -- numpy-discussion@python.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to numpy-discussion-le...@python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/numpy-discussion.python.org/ >>>>>> Member address: ralf.gomm...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NumPy-Discussion mailing list -- numpy-discussion@python.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to numpy-discussion-le...@python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/numpy-discussion.python.org/ >>>>> Member address: deak.and...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> NumPy-Discussion mailing list -- numpy-discussion@python.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to numpy-discussion-le...@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/numpy-discussion.python.org/ >>> Member address: ralf.gomm...@gmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NumPy-Discussion mailing list -- numpy-discussion@python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to numpy-discussion-le...@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/numpy-discussion.python.org/ >> Member address: deak.and...@gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > NumPy-Discussion mailing list -- numpy-discussion@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to numpy-discussion-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/numpy-discussion.python.org/ > Member address: ilhanpo...@gmail.com >
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