On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:02 PM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:33 AM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:28 AM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:15 AM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 9:32 AM Andras Deak <deak.and...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Today both of the python.org mailing lists I'm subscribed to (numpy
>>>>> and scipy-dev) got the same kind of link shortener spam. I assume all the
>>>>> mailing lists started getting these, and that these won't go away for a
>>>>> while.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't see these on
>>>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/,
>>>> nor did I receive them (and I did check my spam folder). Do you see it in
>>>> the archive, or do you understand why you do receive them?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for not being specific: they were sent as replies to the latest
>>> thread on each list, see e.g. at the bottom (6th email, 5th reply) of
>>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/thread/BLCIC2WMJQ5VT6HJSUW4V5TNGQ36JQXI/
>>>
>>
>> Found the permalink: (warning, spam link there)
>> https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/message/MWI6AKF4QNQ45532MVA3XOXYW5GDFL6O/
>>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any way to prevent these, short of moderating emails from new
>>>>> list members? Assuming the engine even supports that. There aren't many
>>>>> emails, especially from new members, and I can't think of other ways that
>>>>> ensure no false positives in filtering.
>>>>>
>>>>
> We don't have admin access to the python.org lists, so this is a bit of a
> problem. We have never had a spam problem, so we can ask to block this user
> first. If it continues to happen, we may be able to moderate new subscriber
> emails, but we do need to ask for permissions first and I'm not sure we'll
> get them.
>

Unfortunately (but unsurprisingly) there are multiple accounts doing this
https://mail.python.org/archives/search?q=bit.ly&page=1&sort=date-desc
This is why I figured that an _a posteriori_ whack-a-mole against these
specific users might not be a feasible solution to the underlying problem.

András



> A better solution longer term is migrating to Discourse, which has far
> better moderation tools than Mailman and is also more approachable for
> people not used to mailing lists (which is most newcomers to open source).
> Migrating is a bit of a pain, but with the new CZI grant having a focus on
> improving the contributor experience, we should be able to do this.
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>
>
>
>>
>>>>> Since maintainer time is precious, I can volunteer to moderate such
>>>>> emails if needed.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> András
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