On Wed, 2021-09-29 at 11:07 -0700, Stefan van der Walt wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021, at 03:02, Ralf Gommers wrote:
> > We don't have admin access to the python.org lists, so this is a
> > bit of a problem. We have never had a spam problem, so we can ask
> > to block this user first. If it continues to happen, we may be able
> > to moderate new subscriber emails, but we do need to ask for
> > permissions first and I'm not sure we'll get them.
> > 
> > A better solution longer term is migrating to Discourse, which has
> > far better moderation tools than Mailman and is also more
> > approachable for people not used to mailing lists (which is most
> > newcomers to open source). Migrating is a bit of a pain, but with
> > the new CZI grant having a focus on improving the contributor
> > experience, we should be able to do this.
> 
> I would like to offer the use of 
> https://discuss.scientific-python.org.  I would be happy to handle


I am +0.8 for building up a community forum there, for better or worse,
a large chunk of the traffic here is just an announcement/formal list
these days.  It would be nice to have a community forum.

+0.8 just because I am not sure I want to be pinned down on moderation.

> email list migration, and have created the following two categories


Personally, I currently lean to +0 if we aim for a larger community
forum, otherwise -0.  I am not sure that moving the list in its current
form/volume is worth annoying those who prefer mail.

But, I also think the creation of a user forum can be distinct from
moving the "formal" uses of this mailing list – at least for a while.


> for NumPy discussion:
> 
> User discussion: https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/user/numpy <
> https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/user/numpy/19>
> Contributor discussion:   
> https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/contributor/numpy <  
> https://discuss.scientific-python.org/c/contributor/numpy/18>
> 
> We're happy to support this as part of the Scientific Python


I do like is the idea of having a cross-project platform (both for devs
and users/support).  Not sure how well discourse will scale, if e.g.
scipy also moved into one forum.
But the tags and categories may have a lot of potential!

If we have a plan e.g. to also move SciPy-dev to the same place, there
could be a very concrete benefit of allowing easier reach across
projects.
(Even NumPy is pretty diverse in topics.  Discussions in random
numbers, fft, or linalg may find a lot of interest in SciPy.)

Cheers,

Sebastian


> ecosystem grant, and will give admin rights to anyone on the NumPy
> developer team who wants to help manage / moderate discussions.
> 
> Of course, we can also just delete these if the team prefers to have
> their discussions somewhere else.  But I think there is a benefit to
> bringing community discussions together in one place.
> 
> Best regards,
> Stéfan
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