I'm sure in case you attack the open source community, you will get less help next time.
I'm following this discussion very closely, and IMHO Byron _never_ attacked the community in any way, quite the contrary.
To _finish_ this discussion hold 3 thinks in mind.
1.) The fable about the raven and the plumes of the peacock.
... or maybe the sour grapes?
2.) What would you invest in case you had paid for a search engine that you can use unlimited in the web?
3.) In case you would hire one of the nutch developer as consultant you would pay >1k (in US) per day so what you think had the nutch developer personal invest to nutch?
This whole discussion is silly. The following explains why.
Did any one of you actually read the license??? The code is available under BSD-like license, which does NOT require anything what you guys seem to stipulate. That's precisely the advantage of this type of license for commercial use. The code is there, do what you want (including selling it for big bucks as your own product) so long as:
* you put copyright notices in the documentation.
* if you distribute the source code, it should retain the copyright notices. But you don't have to distribute the source code if you don't feel like it.
Does this mean you have to slap these copyright notices all over your website? Definitely no. I have experiences in this from the FreeBSD project - many companies use parts or whole of FreeBSD in their commercial products (many of them not giving back anything to the project), and the only place that you can notice it is in the fine print in the user manual. The practice shows that a significant portion of BSD code users DOES contribute back, either in bug reports, patches or enhancements - because they are willing to do so, and not because they are forced to (and try to circumvent the GPL terms).
So, I think your demands are unreasonable and contrary to the Nutch license, which specifies the terms of use. I commend Byron for taking the initiative and coming up with the first commercial application of Nutch. This should be the reason for pride for the Nutch community, that the code is useful for professional applications, and it can stand to demands of a production environment.
And as you can see he is willing to contribute back to the project (although he doesn't have to - according to the license). So, I think we should just applaud his efforts, and stop these silly accusations.
Doug, if you are concerned about the case of mixed identity, perhaps it would be a good idea to put additional restrictions just over the use of Nutch logo and "look & feel", because as it is now the license allows to use them as they are.
-- Best regards, Andrzej Bialecki
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