Melinda,

        I agree with Anoop (I just thought I'd get that in for its shock 
value).  :-)

        Usually, if the agenda is tight, you need to be headed for the 
microphone before a
presenter is done, or the Chairs will move immediately on to the next 
presentation. 

        If you have attended very many IETF WG meetings, you most likely have 
been in a 
meeting where the line was cut off with folks still standing at the microphone. 
 If you have
been to a lot of IETF meetings and have not personally been a victim of "take 
it to the list", 
then either you're shy, or very lucky.

         If you are the "jabber" scribe, you'd be a victim of delayed reactions 
from remote
participants, in combination with delays in getting to the microphone.  A delay 
of a single
minute will likely decide whether you make it in before the cut off or not.

        I think it is possible for the chairs to give special consideration to 
scribes when
they have otherwise closed the queue, however.  But this would necessarily mean 
that a
scribe would be restricted to just asking questions for remote "jabber" 
participants - and
not for themselves (though that might be an incentive to volunteer to be a 
scribe).

        Note that all of these observations apply whether we are using jabber, 
or WebEx.

--
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Melinda 
Shore
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nvo3] remote participation for NVO3 interim meeting

On 8/23/12 3:14 PM, Anoop Ghanwani wrote:
> I have attended a WG meeting remotely and found that while it's mostly 
> possible to follow what is happening, it is almost impossible to 
> participate meaningfully.  Jabber is too slow because often 
> questions/answers require quick turn around and at least regular WG 
> meetings move too quickly for that.

I've participated in working group sessions remotely dozens of times and I 
don't quite understand this comment.  It's not as if you can just pipe up when 
the spirit moves you when you're in the room, either - you have to stand in 
line and wait your turn.
There's not much multi-party discussion, either.  Ultimately how successful 
remote participation is comes down to the attentiveness of the chairs, I think.

Melinda

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