Paul,

I am not sure applying P bit in LISP header will address the backward 
compatibility in LISP. The lisp-gpe draft does not address how LISP-gpe router 
handles the packet when receiving it from LISP router with N,E, or V bit set.  
Furthermore, the statement of "The receiving (legacy) LISP router will ignore 
N, E and V bits, when the P bit is set." in the draft indicates the request of 
change on legacy LISP router.

Regarding to the protocol evolution, does this mean that nonce/map-version 
features in LISP will be deprecated?  IMO: Having the same field overloaded for 
many difference purposes is not good way for the protocol evolution, it becomes 
messy.

Regards,
Lucy




-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Quinn (paulq) [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:03 PM
To: Lucy yong
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nvo3] New Version Notification for draft-quinn-vxlan-gpe-00.txt

Lucy,

Thank you for your comments.

The P bit provides much needed flexibility for the protocol.  First and 
foremost, it enables the creation of a single on the wire protocol that 
encompasses both VXLAN and LISP (please see 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lewis-lisp-gpe-00 for the associated LISP 
draft).  The P bit also enables the evolution of the protocol, allowing the 
format to change as needed with a simple bit change.

Thank you,
Paul


On Sep 6, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Lucy yong <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> 
> I read this draft. Both this draft and our draft 
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yong-l3vpn-nvgre-vxlan-encap/ propose 
> adding prototype type field in VXLAN header in supporting L3 overlays (or 
> other) beside L2 overlays. The only difference between two is that this draft 
> requests using P bit to indicate the presence of protocol type field in VXLAN 
> header. We don't think this is necessary. For the backward compatibility, we 
> propose treating protocol type value 0 as Ethernet payload. 
> 
> This draft gives two ways to do L2 overlay. If P bit is set and protocol type 
> value 0x6558, L2 payload is follow, or P bit is unset, L2 payload is follow. 
> IMHO, this is bad.
> 
> Regards,
> Lucy
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [nvo3] Fwd: New Version Notification for 
> draft-quinn-vxlan-gpe-00.txt
> 
> FYI for the group.  
> 
> Paul
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> A new version of I-D, draft-quinn-vxlan-gpe-00.txt has been 
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>> 
>> Filename:     draft-quinn-vxlan-gpe
>> Revision:     00
>> Title:                Generic Protocol Extension for VXLAN
>> Creation date:        2013-08-27
>> Group:                Individual Submission
>> Number of pages: 13
>> URL:             
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-quinn-vxlan-gpe-00.txt
>> Status:          http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-quinn-vxlan-gpe
>> Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-quinn-vxlan-gpe-00
>> 
>> 
>> Abstract:
>>  This draft describes a mechanism for adding multi-protocol support 
>> to  Virtual eXtensible Local Area Network (VXLAN).  Protocol  
>> identification is carried in the VXLAN header and is used to describe  
>> the encapsulated payload.
>> 
>> 
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