Hello Jack,

Passive repeaters have been done to death on other lists I'm on, some
of the guys even giving very in depth reasons into why they won't work
and what cringly said was a load... in any case I just thought it was
interesting...

The only time it might work, and for those of you worried about
lightning etc, I saw a passive repeater (flat surface too) used in a
periscope design, it served to increase height while decreasing cable
runs...

and there was one other design, the top was basically a cone and
turned a directional signal into omni...

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Saturday, September 21, 2002, 4:45:03 AM, you wrote:

JU> Well... it depends. (Depends on what, you ask...)

JU> It depends on the distance - the total distance from one radio
JU> to the passive repeater and then to the other radio.
JU> Briefly put:
JU> a) The good news - A passive repeater can help you fill in or extend
JU> coverage
JU> to an area that has a blocked line-of-sight path. This could be helpful
JU> say, in
JU> NYC where you need coverage around a corner, for example.
JU> b) The bad news - The signal loss with a passive repeater is very high.
JU> With low power license-free 802.11b equipment (unlike licensed microwave
JU> equipment) we can't just increase the power to make up for the passive
JU> repeater
JU> losses. Unless the total end-to-end distance is very short, the passive
JU> repeater losses
JU> mean that not enough signal will reach the far end.

JU> In conclusion, if you do decide to experiment with a passive repeater, I'd
JU> suggest
JU> using not a single flat plane (like in your embedded link) but a pair of
JU> high-gain 2.4 GHz
JU> antennas connected back-to-back with a short length of low-loss coax.

JU> If you need more help calculating the actual amount of signal that will
JU> make it
JU> to the far end (the link budget), get hold of me off-line.

JU> jack


JU> evilbunny wrote:

>> Hello ptp,
>>
>>   passive repeaters anyone?
>>
>>   http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/pics/passive_repeater.jpg
>>
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