On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Jonathan Hirschman wrote:

> Whatever the issue, Verizon insists that DSL is not possible. There
> isn't a distance issue, it has to do the with the type of circuit
> installed. Verizon won't even provide DSL themselves :(
>

Most likely it's Verizon's loop concentrator.  What happened was NYNEX
back in 93-94 decided that it'd be more cost effective by bringing in
fiber to the basement of a building, then putting in a mini-CO there to
connect to the NID of each apartment.  I recall this being done to my old
building around that time.  It resulted in "higher voice quality" and all,
but made it totally incompatible with the xDSL standards that came out a
few years later.  But you still have a few options.

1) Use IDSL.  The loop concentrator should be compatible with ISDN, and
   IDSL (physically) uses the same signaling as ISDN.  It's not as pricey
   as SDSL, but then again, it's not as fast either.

2) Use SDSL.  But you knew that already.

3) Call up Verizon.  Tell them that you need a "phone line compatible with
   an alarm system."  Supposedly this causes Verizon to try to provision
   an analog loop for you.  YMMV on this one.

4) Call up Speakeasy (800-556-5829).  Tell them that you need a ADSL
   circuit on a separate line because your line is on a loop concentrator.
   They should be more than willing to work with you on this one, unlike
   VZ.  It does require a truck roll, so that does mean higher upfront
   cost.  But it'll be cheaper than SDSL/ADSL, and probably faster.  Oh,
   and feel free to refer my account (starfox) if you go this route.

Kevin "Starfox" Arima
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