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Thanks, Shane. I guess that's long been debated (e.g., do cats play?), since 
almost all forms of play also have a "practice" aspect. I was telling my 
swallow story to a friend in the D.C. area, and he described a pair of foxes 
who had a den near his backyard. The kits would come out in the early morning 
and play with the balls my friend's family had left in the yard...but the play 
was pouncing, chasing etc. So I'd like to believe it can be both.

Hope it's okay to continue this conversation here. (I find it fascinating!) 
I/we can take it private if it's taking up too much space.
--Joe

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 11:49 AM Shane Blodgett 
<shaneblodg...@yahoo.com<mailto:shaneblodg...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
For birds that catch prey on the wing I wonder if this behavior is just for 
“fun“ or could also be seen as “practice.”

Regards,
Shane Blodgett

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On Jun 6, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Joseph Wallace 
<joew...@gmail.com<mailto:joew...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Thank you all for your replies (here and directly to me) and the references. I 
love that feather-play is a "swallow thing." The one I watched varied its game, 
swooping in from all angles and approaches. Twice it flew almost straight 
upwards until it was perhaps fifty feet off the ground before releasing the 
feather.

I'm intrigued by the fact that one of the earlier reports also specifies a 
large *white* feather; my guess is that, like yesterday's, it was a down 
feather, which would float in the air much more satisfactorily than a denser 
one.

I write essays on nature for a local Audubon Society. I think my next piece 
will focus on bird play! Thanks again--
Joe

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 11:34 PM Brendan Fogarty 
<bn...@cornell.edu<mailto:bn...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
Joseph and all,

This behavior seems familiar, but I cannot say if I have seen it before in 
person or in media. It is definitely documented; below is an excerpt from Birds 
of the World online.

"In Britain, 3 juveniles were observed apparently playing with large white 
feather while in flight, repeatedly dropping it and catching it before it 
reached the ground (1). Adults are also known to exhibit this same behavior 
(2)."

1. Thompson, B. G. (1990). Behaviour of Swallows with feather. British Birds 
83:239

2. Turner, A. K. (2004). Family Hirundinidae (Swallows and Martins). In 
Handbook of the Birds of the World, Volume 9: Cotingas to Pipits and Wagtails 
(J. del Hoyo, A. Elliott, and D. A. Cristie, Editors), Lynx Edicions, 
Barcelona, Spain.

Best,
Brendan Fogarty


On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 11:23 PM Ardith Bondi 
<ard...@earthlink.net<mailto:ard...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
That is very cool! This is not exactly the same, but I was photographing a Tree 
Swallow at Oceanside Marine Nature Study Area on Long Island last Tuesday with 
a 500 mm PF lens (think, short and light for a 500mm) on a Nikon D850 with a 
very loud shutter. I suddenly realized that the swallow was singing in response 
to the shutter. The more I pressed it, the more the bird sang. I tried a varied 
pattern to test it. When I finally stopped, the bird waited a second and then 
flew off. I had never experienced that before, either. I have watched penguins 
play in  Antarctica. Penguins climb up on things and jump off them just for 
fun. They’ll even do it with a buddy.

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On Jun 5, 2021, at 10:04 PM, Joseph Wallace 
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This is more about bird behavior than rarity, so apologies if it's o/t, but I 
watched a swallow engage in extraordinary (to me) behavior at Croton Point Park 
in Westchester today. It started when I spotted something white drifting slowly 
towards the ground: a large, downy feather. Just as I focused on it, a Barn 
Swallow snatched it out of the air with its beak. I expected the bird to head 
off to its nest, but instead it dropped the feather...and then circled and 
snatched it out of the air again.

For the next few minutes, I watched the swallow repeatedly release the feather, 
do wide loops around it--sometimes feinting in its direction--and then pluck it 
out of the air. Twice it let the feather land on the grass, retrieving it once 
while on the wing and once by landing beside it. Finally the swallow did head 
off, I imagine to line its nest at last.

I'd never seen swallows engage in play, but I can't see how this was anything 
else. Has anyone else here ever witnessed something like this? Thanks--Joe 
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