The trial has been successful so far.  Here are my installation 
instructions for Ubuntu (http://p-s.co.nz/wordpress/?p=254).  The next 
test is to see how it performs with a complex project on my main dev 
machine.


Grant Paton-Simpson wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am installing netbeans on my Ubuntu laptop for a test spin as we 
> speak.  Please keep giving feedback if you have any (for future readers 
> of this thread etc) but if this trial works I will install it on my dev 
> box.  Thanks for all the input.  I'll probably report back later.
>
>
> All the best, Grant
>
>
> Tony Rigden wrote:
>   
>> My comparison is not exactly apples for apples in that I have Zend
>> Studio ver 5.5 Standard which is a little dated now. Also the features
>> of netbeans probably more match Zend Studio Professional. (Remote
>> Debug, FTP etc). If I was starting out now and did not already have
>> Zend, it would be a different choice because netbeans is fully
>> featured and free whereas the Professional version of Zend is not
>> cheap.
>>
>> However, for me the personal choice to stay with Zend was:
>>
>> While the user interface for netbeans is very good, I found I could
>> use Zend out the box with hardly a glance at the manual
>>
>> I prefer the way Zend allows me to load files from directories all
>> over the place and bring them together into one project whereas
>> netbeans requires a more formal process using project groups to do
>> that.
>>
>> Even with the Standard version of Zend Studio's limited code profiling
>> tools, the Analyze Code feature is very nice at picking up common
>> mistakes (for me anyway) such as miss-spelling variables etc
>>
>> I struck one annoying "feature" in that if I put 2 breakpoints my file
>> or files and run debug, it stops at the first breakpoint as expected.
>> But if I press F5 to continue it does not stop at the next breakpoint
>> but executes to the end. Maybe it is a bug or maybe it is something I
>> don't understand. The documentation did not make it clear.
>>
>> The only other IDE I tried once was the much lauded PHPEd. I found it
>> to be a "gray fog" both to look at and to use. netbeans is miles ahead
>> of it and is great value.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 18, 8:17 am, "Sid Bachtiar" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Care to elaborate? I've used Zend Studio and Zend Neon and I don't
>>> miss anything now that I'm using Eclipse PDT. May be I forgot on a
>>> nice feature not exist in free Eclipse.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Tony Rigden
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Just finished playing with it. (note the hour). It is very nice. The
>>>> price is right. But I still think Zend is better for the moment
>>>> Tony
>>>>       
>>>> On Dec 17, 4:21 pm, "Sid Bachtiar" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> What I hate about Aptana is that they try to spam you with advertising
>>>>> messages on Eclipse.
>>>>>         
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Cam Spiers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Aptana + it's PHP addon is worth a look.
>>>>>>           
>>>>>> It's based on Eclispe but offers FTP, code templates, SVN addons 
>>>>>> (subclipse
>>>>>> + others), Database Explorer, Code Completion, Jump to Source, Debugging
>>>>>> using xdebug or zend debugger.
>>>>>>           
>>>>>> Netbeans is quite cool too and I find the interface really simple to use.
>>>>>>           
>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>           
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Grant Paton-Simpson <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Thanks for that Sid.  Anyone used Eclipse PDT for local debugging (if,
>>>>>>> indeed, it has that functionality)?  Any other feedback on Netbeans
>>>>>>> would be good too.
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Sid Bachtiar wrote:
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Netbean is nice, I have used it for developing Java App, very visual
>>>>>>>> RAD, but I don't know how good it is for PHP development.
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Zend Neon is very nice, but you get most of the features from free
>>>>>>>> Eclipse PDT.
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> For me Eclipse PDT is enough. It has the following features and more:
>>>>>>>> - Code completion
>>>>>>>> - Subclipse (SVN)
>>>>>>>> - Syntax colouring
>>>>>>>> - Jump to source
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> I haven't used Eclipse PDT for debugging though, but I think you can
>>>>>>>> integrate php dbg. I find Symfony debug mode and Firebug more than
>>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Grant Paton-Simpson <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> I just read a very interesting piece on using Netbeans for PHP 
>>>>>>>>> editing,
>>>>>>>>> debugging etc:
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/12/16/php-support-in-netbeans-65/
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Netbeans sounds promising and quite a bit has improved since earlier
>>>>>>>>> versions. Has anyone tried it (recently or at all)?  I have used Zend
>>>>>>>>> Studio for Windows previously but I am considering the new version
>>>>>>>>> (Neon) for Eclipse running on my Ubuntu development machine.  Zend is
>>>>>>>>> feeling a bit pricey for me though given that most of my development
>>>>>>>>> software is open source and free.
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> I like code completion, and I really need decent local debugging.  
>>>>>>>>> Plus
>>>>>>>>> being able to jump to the source of a function etc.  To be honest,
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> are a lot of features I don't use and don't care about.  I don't mind
>>>>>>>>> paying a certain amount (I pay for the pydev extension for Eclipse, 
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> example) but I don't like paying large amounts for functionality I
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> care about.
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> All the best, Grant
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> --
>>>>> Blue Horn Ltd - System Developmenthttp://bluehorn.co.nz
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> --
>>> Blue Horn Ltd - System Developmenthttp://bluehorn.co.nz
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