Hi everyone, I am installing netbeans on my Ubuntu laptop for a test spin as we speak. Please keep giving feedback if you have any (for future readers of this thread etc) but if this trial works I will install it on my dev box. Thanks for all the input. I'll probably report back later.
All the best, Grant Tony Rigden wrote: > My comparison is not exactly apples for apples in that I have Zend > Studio ver 5.5 Standard which is a little dated now. Also the features > of netbeans probably more match Zend Studio Professional. (Remote > Debug, FTP etc). If I was starting out now and did not already have > Zend, it would be a different choice because netbeans is fully > featured and free whereas the Professional version of Zend is not > cheap. > > However, for me the personal choice to stay with Zend was: > > While the user interface for netbeans is very good, I found I could > use Zend out the box with hardly a glance at the manual > > I prefer the way Zend allows me to load files from directories all > over the place and bring them together into one project whereas > netbeans requires a more formal process using project groups to do > that. > > Even with the Standard version of Zend Studio's limited code profiling > tools, the Analyze Code feature is very nice at picking up common > mistakes (for me anyway) such as miss-spelling variables etc > > I struck one annoying "feature" in that if I put 2 breakpoints my file > or files and run debug, it stops at the first breakpoint as expected. > But if I press F5 to continue it does not stop at the next breakpoint > but executes to the end. Maybe it is a bug or maybe it is something I > don't understand. The documentation did not make it clear. > > The only other IDE I tried once was the much lauded PHPEd. I found it > to be a "gray fog" both to look at and to use. netbeans is miles ahead > of it and is great value. > > > On Dec 18, 8:17 am, "Sid Bachtiar" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Care to elaborate? I've used Zend Studio and Zend Neon and I don't >> miss anything now that I'm using Eclipse PDT. May be I forgot on a >> nice feature not exist in free Eclipse. >> >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Tony Rigden >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> Just finished playing with it. (note the hour). It is very nice. The >>> price is right. But I still think Zend is better for the moment >>> Tony >>> >>> On Dec 17, 4:21 pm, "Sid Bachtiar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> What I hate about Aptana is that they try to spam you with advertising >>>> messages on Eclipse. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Cam Spiers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Aptana + it's PHP addon is worth a look. >>>>> >>>>> It's based on Eclispe but offers FTP, code templates, SVN addons >>>>> (subclipse >>>>> + others), Database Explorer, Code Completion, Jump to Source, Debugging >>>>> using xdebug or zend debugger. >>>>> >>>>> Netbeans is quite cool too and I find the interface really simple to use. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Grant Paton-Simpson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for that Sid. Anyone used Eclipse PDT for local debugging (if, >>>>>> indeed, it has that functionality)? Any other feedback on Netbeans >>>>>> would be good too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sid Bachtiar wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Netbean is nice, I have used it for developing Java App, very visual >>>>>>> RAD, but I don't know how good it is for PHP development. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Zend Neon is very nice, but you get most of the features from free >>>>>>> Eclipse PDT. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For me Eclipse PDT is enough. It has the following features and more: >>>>>>> - Code completion >>>>>>> - Subclipse (SVN) >>>>>>> - Syntax colouring >>>>>>> - Jump to source >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't used Eclipse PDT for debugging though, but I think you can >>>>>>> integrate php dbg. I find Symfony debug mode and Firebug more than >>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Grant Paton-Simpson <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just read a very interesting piece on using Netbeans for PHP editing, >>>>>>>> debugging etc: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/12/16/php-support-in-netbeans-65/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Netbeans sounds promising and quite a bit has improved since earlier >>>>>>>> versions. Has anyone tried it (recently or at all)? I have used Zend >>>>>>>> Studio for Windows previously but I am considering the new version >>>>>>>> (Neon) for Eclipse running on my Ubuntu development machine. Zend is >>>>>>>> feeling a bit pricey for me though given that most of my development >>>>>>>> software is open source and free. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I like code completion, and I really need decent local debugging. Plus >>>>>>>> being able to jump to the source of a function etc. To be honest, >>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>> are a lot of features I don't use and don't care about. I don't mind >>>>>>>> paying a certain amount (I pay for the pydev extension for Eclipse, for >>>>>>>> example) but I don't like paying large amounts for functionality I >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> care about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All the best, Grant >>>>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Blue Horn Ltd - System Developmenthttp://bluehorn.co.nz >>>> >> -- >> Blue Horn Ltd - System Developmenthttp://bluehorn.co.nz >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
