Yup, it's looking more and more like I really should be using
something like Campaign Monitor or Mail Chimp.

On Apr 16, 10:21 am, Keri Henare <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Which brings us back to Campaign Monitor ;)
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Keri Henare
>
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>
> On 16/04/2009, at 10:20 AM, Super Steve wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > You mean sitehost.co.nz?
>
> > I've just had a look at their terms and they have a clause that says:
>
> > "You are responsible for ensuring that your use of the Service does
> > not consume excessive system or network resources that disrupts the
> > normal use of the Service through, but not limited to, spawning
> > multiple processes, consuming excessive amounts of memory, CPU or
> > bandwidth usage."
>
> > This is pretty much the same sort of clause that my current hosting
> > company has and which they pointed to when I tried to send 25,000
> > emails out.
>
> > On Apr 15, 7:47 pm, Keri Henare <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Go to SiteHost. Get a VPS just as good for about $30/month.
>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------
> >> Keri Henare
>
> >> [e]    [email protected]
> >> [m]    021 874 552
> >> [w]    www.kerihenare.com
>
> >> On 15/04/2009, at 7:43 PM, Jochen Daum wrote:
>
> >>> I didn't check their website. This is what I received:
>
> >>> "Just letting you know we have launched a new “Micro” Virtual  
> >>> Server.
> >>> This gives you a server hosting environment, with managed backups  
> >>> and
> >>> 99.99% uptime for less than $100 per month.
>
> >>> Perfect for those project sites that need a server, but don’t have a
> >>> server budget!
>
> >>> Micro VS
>
> >>> 1.5Ghz
>
> >>> 256MB RAM
>
> >>> 5GB SAN
>
> >>> Your choice of Linux distro
>
> >>> $89 +GST /month
>
> >>> More info on Virtual Servers:
>
> >>>http://servers.webdrive.co.nz/virtualservers.php
>
> >>> If you have any questions or would like to order a server please  
> >>> give
> >>> me a call on 09 477 2653.
>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Robin Dickie
>
> >>> Web Drive Limited"
>
> >>> Kind Regards,
>
> >>> Jochen Daum
>
> >>> Chief Automation Officer
> >>> Automatem Ltd
>
> >>> Phone: 09 630 3425
> >>> Mobile: 021 567 853
> >>> Email: [email protected]
> >>> Skype: jochendaum
> >>> Website:www.automatem.co.nz
>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: Aaron Cooper <[email protected]>
> >>> Date: Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:09 PM
> >>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Sending Bulk Email Options
> >>> To: [email protected]
>
> >>>> Example from a marketing email I got from Webdrive today: Virtual
> >>>> server $89 per month, Auth smtp install: $100 one off (my own
> >>>> experience with them).
>
> >>> I'd be interested to know where to find that deal. The cheapest I
> >>> see on
> >>> their site starts at $180 per month.
>
> >>> Aaron
>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jochen Daum" <[email protected]>
> >>> To: <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:48 PM
> >>> Subject: [phpug] Re: Sending Bulk Email Options
>
> >>> Hi Steve,
>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Super Steve <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> I've got a client with a 25,000 record database of contacts that  
> >>>> they
> >>>> want to send emails to on a regular basis. All legit (i.e. not  
> >>>> spam)
> >>>> and opted in and we offer an opt-out link on all messages.
>
> >>>> I've got a small contacts system that I wrote that handles all the
> >>>> maintaining of contacts and sending of emails, but so far I've only
> >>>> used it for clients that have a few thousand contacts.
>
> >>>> I loaded the 25,000 contacts into the database and sent out the  
> >>>> first
> >>>> email, but the company that hosts the site rang me to complain  
> >>>> about
> >>>> the size of the mailout and that it had slowed down their mail
> >>>> server. Even though I had tried to ease the load on the servers by
> >>>> sending 100 emails at a time and then pausing for a minute before
> >>>> sending the next 100, the large number of emails (and bounce backs
> >>>> from bad addresses) had caused them some problems.
>
> >>>> The hosting company suggested that if I want to send such large
> >>>> numbers of emails that I should get my own mail server or use a
> >>>> third-
> >>>> party. Fair enough, they are afterall a web hosting company and not
> >>>> an email provider.
>
> >>>> So now I'm looking at other options. I've found the likes of
> >>>> mailchimp.com and campaignmonitor.com, and while they appear to be
> >>>> cheap at 1 cent per email they start to get a bit expensive when
> >>>> you're talking about 25,000 emails (and remember that pricing is in
> >>>> US
> >>>> $).
>
> >>>> What's involved in running my own mail server? I'm a small time
> >>>> developer that works from home and I only have a humble Vodafone
> >>>> broadband connection. I assume that running my own mail server  
> >>>> would
> >>>> obviously use my own data allowance, and may indeed be against my
> >>>> ISP's terms and conditions.
>
> >>>> Are there any other options open to me? I could afford maybe $100  
> >>>> per
> >>>> mailing of 25,000.
>
> >>> Just get a VPOS or virtual server set up and authenticated SMTP
> >>> setup on it.
>
> >>> Example from a marketing email I got from Webdrive today: Virtual
> >>> server $89 per month, Auth smtp install: $100 one off (my own
> >>> experience with them).
>
> >>> HTH, Jochen
>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------
> >> Keri Henare
>
> >> [e]    [email protected]
> >> [m]    021 874 552
> >> [w]    www.kerihenare.com
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