Users don't care if your html is valid (except maybe, developers, but they do not represent the general population). If you want to waste hours of time making a site valid, then go for it - but I'd be a pretty pissed off customer if I was paying for it, and while gaining absolutely zero ROI. I'd rather you spend that time *actually testing* the site on different web browsers, after-all as I'm sure you are all aware, a valid site != a working site. A shipped product is more valuable than a perfect one. -Nick
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bruce Clement <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been using this quote in my signature file for a while. Today I > think I'll headline with it. > > "Before attempting to create something new, it is vital to have a good > appreciation of everything that already exists in this field." Mikhail > Kalashnikov > > This forum is populated by experienced php developers who use php and > W3C standards to generate real-world websites. They exchange useful > information and help each other out. Even if you think you know > better, standards are important, and just saying that a standards > validator is "Stupid" only shows how much you have to learn. The > reason standards are important here is because a standards compliant > website has a greater chance of working with as yet unreleased browser > versions than a non-compliant one has. > > You got one reply to your posting about your site giving what I > consider to be pointing out a basic and easy to fix problem which you > replied 3 times to with increasing levels of petulance. > > According to my records this thread is the second time you've posted > on this forum. The other being a one liner "2 hrs to research find out > how, and implement" comment on another thread. Giving you constructive > criticism on your site as Boyd did is hardly tall poppy. In this list, > you are not a tall poppy, people like Jochen, Harvey, and Aaron > (amongst others) are and they don't rant and rave when people point > out mistakes they make. > > I'm a database & back-end developer, not a website designer, so > there's no point complaining about my sites, but I am currently the > customer for having a few dozen of my domain names developed into > small websites. The people I'm working with on this project are mature > adults who accept a task and deliver to spec (or they stop getting > commissions). If one of them told me they wouldn't use a dictionary > because it was stupid they would get no further work. I expect basic > things like spelling and grammar from content writers, W3C compliance > from web developers and laces in shoes; if I don't get them I spend my > money elsewhere. > > Last I was looking to hire a web developer I looked critically at > their website on the basis that their own website is their advert and > should represent their best possible work. This wasn't just a surface > examination, I carefully examined their html as well. If it wasn't of > the required quality I simply moved along. > > Bruce > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:46 AM, vincenz2004 <[email protected]> wrote: >> p.s. My site renders 4 errors on your checksum validator (which I dont >> use cause its stupid). >> and facebook.com gets 40 errors... >> >> http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.facebook.com >> >> Why dont you write to facebook and teach them how to write valid code >> too? >> >> On Mar 15, 12:23 pm, Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: >>> cutting edge is great, but so is getting the basics right, how about >>> valid html for a start >>> >>> http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediacre... >>> >>> On Mar 15, 11:49 am, vincenz2004 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi all, >>> >>> > We would like to offer contracted web programming services through our >>> > company if anyone is looking for a developer. >>> >>> > We specialize in Social Networking scripting but practically >>> > everything else. >>> >>> > We like cutting edge projects, so if you have one let us know ;) >>> >>> > Feel free to visit our site. >>> >>> >http://www.mediacreations.co.nz >>> >>> > Cheers! >>> >>> > Vince >> >> -- >> NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug >> To post, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe, send email to >> [email protected] >> > > > > -- > Bruce Clement > > Home: http://www.clement.co.nz/ > Twitter: http://twitter.com/Bruce_Clement > Google Buzz: http://www.google.com/profiles/aotearoanz > > "Before attempting to create something new, it is vital to have a good > appreciation of everything that already exists in this field." Mikhail > Kalashnikov > > -- > NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug > To post, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe, send email to > [email protected] -- NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected]
