I think this is an interesting and relevant discussion. I am constantly dealing with html markup within php code, so for me, yeosteve's statement is quite wrong. He is imagining that all programmers use something like Smarty whereby all the markup is in templates and that php programmers have nothing to do with templates. Also, Steve, referring to a Diploma course may not be the best reflection of the 'real world' which, as has been pointed out by another poster Google does not ascribe to, largely because of browser incompatibility issues and with reducing overheads. That goes back to my previous comment about Internet Explorer, which probably serves up more pages than all other browsers put together, yet they are the least standards compliant.
Nevertheless this is a good discussion and is probably similar to the Nature - Nurture controversy: no one is right. Both sides have valid arguments although it is probably more of a political discussion than a technical one. Wc3 is like the United Nations trying to bring peace to all nations, but a lot of their time they are caught up in unnecessary bureaucracy and we ignore them. When it comes to the real issues they have no teeth (eg: they can't get IE on board with many of their standards). On Mar 21, 7:56 am, yeosteve <[email protected]> wrote: > This is way off topic for a PHP user group. PHP is the back end > logic, and you should leave the presentation code to people who get it > right, and care. > > Web standard XHTML/CSS is not that difficult to write. In the marking > schedule for our Web Dev Diploma at Natcoll we have a checkbox for > "Validated XHTML" and from 2 months into the course, after starting > with no knowledge of coding at all, that is what the students do. > Whack in a CSS reset, avoid borders if possible, use margins on > children, never padding on parents and you have cross-browser, XHTML- > validated pages, and then you can get on with the fun stuff. Apart > from anything else, its way simpler and faster to get it right the > first time. > > Steve > > On Mar 20, 7:44 pm, Adi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Here's googles > > >http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&charset... > > > who cares if they make billions, they have 40 errors...such loosers..:-/... -- NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nzphpug+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
