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On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, vincenz2004 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Maybe Im wrong with a decision I made?
>
> Back in the day, there was this debate (and probably still exists).
>
> The question was:
>
> Do you create a website that works right down the middle - generic
> (eg. compatible with everything) or, something that requires the end
> user to "upgrade" their system (i.e. install the latest flash, or have
> javascript enabled) etc etc.
>
> and which is best?
>
> This argument came about mostly from people in the media industry who
> wanted to push the envelope when it came to creating good looking
> sites vs functional (yes another debate).
>
> So for me, I chose to create the best of both.  i.e aesthetics and
> functionality.  I think a website that can balance both, is
> successful.  However, I lean mostly to a site that depends on new
> systems (i.e. javascript) and browsers that can handle.  Theres
> another debate there... IE6... do you keep creating code for that?  So
> for me, I've made the decision to create the site to the higher end
> (new machines, latest browsers, javascript enabled etc) and if someone
> has an old crusty browser, too bad.  I'll cut the loss.  Id rather
> have a site thats a little bit on the "edge".
>
> Maybe I've not made the right decision? but really, I think that
> decision is mine to make (for my own projects) and my customers
> decision (for their projects) and it comes down to expectations and
> meeting (or exceeding) those.
>
> Yes, I agree with compliance as much as possible but there are other
> influencing factors such as time line and budget (funny that).
>
> This starts a whole new debate also, about AGILE development which
> seems to be a new approach by some (yes I know its been around for a
> while) and where do you draw the lines with that?
>
> What about Googles approach to creating new things?
>
> They craete something albiet, it might have bugs and issues, but they
> put it out there to see what the response is.  If its good response,
> they refine it.  Otherwise, you could spend many hours, dollars, time,
> energy building something perfect, that nobody likes.
>
> Food for thought huh.  These things I try to weight up in balance.
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 19, 8:58 am, Jennifer Geard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> A quick comment about standards compliance, which for me includes WCAG 2.0 
>> AA: it's both hard and not-hard.
>>
>> It's hard the first time. It's really hard if you're trying to bolt 
>> standards compliance onto a project that's already mostly designed and built.
>>
>> Once you've got your head around what's involved and built your patterns of 
>> thought and libraries of code, though, it's just another aspect of what you 
>> do.
>>
>> I'd love to see more developers around who have standards compliance "in 
>> their bones".
>>
>> If you have the resources, getting a solid external audit of your work is an 
>> amazing eye opener.
>>
>> (For the record, I'm usually in the position of commissioning code and then 
>> tailoring/managing it, not cutting it from scratch. Only one of the sites I 
>> run is currently compliant. I'm working on the others, including actively on 
>> the main one.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   Jennifer
>
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