RE: "This is way off topic for a PHP user group.  PHP is the back end
logic, and you should leave the presentation code to people who get it
right, and care. "

Im not sure I agree with that (although Im not the creator of this
group so cant say authoritatively), but my reasoning is because, if
you are a PHP coder, and you dont know anything about aesthetics, user
perspective, GUI intuitiveness or HTML then my opinion is you might
not produce the best PHP, because afterall... PHP is just the rederer
of the browser code.

The reason I have my view is because most sites developed by php
developers usually end up very complicated and ugly.  Thats becasue
(on the most part) they dont know how to keep things simple for "Joe
Bloggs", or they dont care about what "looks good".   Thats why Im not
sure I agree with that.  I would prefer to work with a PHP developer
who has a better overview of the other aspects of functionality.
Otherwise, you end up with developers who then tries to dictate back
to the end user how things should work.  The end user doesnt care,
they just want a simple obvious fat button with step 1,2,3 (most
times).  So, a PHP developer who understands the user, will end up
producing the best architecture, code etc...


On Mar 21, 7:56 am, yeosteve <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is way off topic for a PHP user group.  PHP is the back end
> logic, and you should leave the presentation code to people who get it
> right, and care.
>
> Web standard XHTML/CSS is not that difficult to write.  In the marking
> schedule for our Web Dev Diploma at Natcoll we have a checkbox for
> "Validated  XHTML" and from 2 months into the course, after starting
> with no knowledge of coding at all,  that is what the students do.
> Whack in a CSS reset, avoid borders if possible, use margins on
> children, never padding on parents and you have cross-browser, XHTML-
> validated pages, and then you can get on with the fun stuff.  Apart
> from anything else, its way simpler and faster to get it right the
> first time.
>
> Steve
>
> On Mar 20, 7:44 pm, Adi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Here's googles
>
> >http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&charset...
>
> > who cares if they make billions, they have 40 errors...such loosers..:-/...

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