Dear Randy

According to MTO Minister Clark, Ontario policy now is rumble strips 
only on rural freeways where no bikes are allowed.

I, too, would have concerns if they started showing up where they 
pose a danger to bicyclists.

Tom

On Friday, June 15, 2001 at 0:39, Randy Legault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote on "Re: [obc] Paving highway shoulders," saying..

> On June 14, 2001 09:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Personally, I don't have any concerns so far with rumble strips. I
> > think they do help to keep drivers awake on rural freeways.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for sharing your letter with the subscribers to the Citizens for Safe 
> Cycling and Ottawa Bicycle Club e-mail lists.  
> 
> I feel compelled to comment that I would have serious reservations if there 
> were to be an expansion of the use of rumble strips particularlyif it is done 
> without regard for the impact on cyclists.
> 
> As it now stands, I find that paved shoulder widths are minimal.  Reducing 
> space for cyclists by installing rumble strips could present an inconvenience 
> at least and a safety hazard at worst.
> 
> This has been a matter of intense conflict between transport 
> planners/engineers in several US states of late.  You may want to check the 
> following link to notes from a recent meeting of the Human Powered 
> Transportation Committee of the American Society of Civil Engineers that 
> touches on some of the issues in play.
> 
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kbarrett/curr_upd.htm
> 
> I don't want to be alarmist.  Rumble strips have their place.  There is no 
> conflict on major highways where bicycles are excluded.  They could also be 
> used to good effect where run-off accidents suggest that there are problems.
> 
> I would contend that they should not be a general feature of highway design 
> and that where they are used due attention must be paid to minimize negative 
> impacts for cyclists.
> 
> Thanks for the opportunity to participate in this discussion.

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