Take it easy Frederick, please stay posting here, I think you give
this milis new perpektif, actually I compared your advice with real
world, and it' so accurate.... last time when everyone said the
index will be down... you said the contrary, and you are right...
and your explanation so rational.... I'm rational person and always
search the reason behind an event...
Just stay here ok, I know many of member here will miss your
oppinion...
Redy
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sharing infos in this milist is just like against a bunch of
mob...who don't want to be criticised and could not accept someone's
else opinion...
> i would rather have a battle in the market....but, i know people
like pak edy1276 and effendi ang..? hehe are very smart and have big
investment...so.. my apology, then..
> this is my last comment please consider all of my comment as
disclaimer and ignore them...
> promise and swear not to give any opnion anymore...
> and my best respect to embah or mbah, pak oen, and pak
vibby ...keep up a good work and remind people to always be wise in
investing their money in the jungle world of the equity market....
> peace and cheers to you all
> bye
>
>
> edy1276 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> nope....but i may be looking at heavily investing some
big chunk of
> > my fund....
> Tong Kosong Nyaring Bunyinya..
> not that funny....i stll have some at an average of
> IDR35....so...take an easy...
> Menjilat ludah sendiri
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
> <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> >
> > not that funny....i stll have some at an average of
> IDR35....so...take an easy...
> > hehe
> >
> > up_trends <up_trends@> wrote:
> > funny when some people said this stock is good but
> actually they
> > still dont invest in it. if u are sure enough bumi is going to
> 1200,
> > why u still don't have bumi? :)
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
> > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > nope....but i may be looking at heavily investing some big
chunk
> of
> > my fund....
> > > and may forecast for BUMI fair value is more than 1,200 rups..
> > >
> > > but, what u said reminded me to an event when i told people
that
> > Telkom's fair value is at 9,000 rups...at that times Telkom's
share
> > price was at 4,400....haha
> > > peace ah..
> > >
> > > up_trends <up_trends@> wrote:
> > > I'm guessing u have bumi? well good luck :)
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
> > > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now
is
> > that
> > > i don't understand with what you said...
> > > > peace
> > > >
> > > > up_trends <up_trends@> wrote:
> > > > the problem is are u strong enough to see other stocks
> > > rally giving u
> > > > a whooping 20%+ gain while bumi ....... :)
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
> > > > <pemainbesar@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well...
> > > > > come on...be realistic... and please separate corporate
> action
> > > > and assets.... as of September 30 2006 (next 9-month
earnings),
> > > > BUMI's assets should remain at IDR16.99 trillion, compared
with
> > > PTBA
> > > > of ONLY IDR2.68 trillion, or INCO of IDR15.23 trillion or
ANTM
> of
> > > > IDR6.6 trillion.
> > > > >
> > > > > If BUMI CAN manage its current debts by any kind of
> refinancing
> > > > or loan bridging or whatsoever....BUMI mabe as attractive as
> > Inco...
> > > > >
> > > > > The question for BUMI is how they can manage their cash
> > > > flow...and maintain its loyal foreign buyers....
> > > > >
> > > > > So, with or without selling KPC and ARUTMIN, which are the
> > > > largest coal miner by ASSETS and reserves, BUMI still has
> > potential
> > > > for long term investment.
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > ariabela@ wrote:
> > > > > Sepertinya, pade kalah 'senior' semua sama yg punyanya,
> > > > ya - nanti lama2
> > > > > juga akan terlupakan/terselesaikan dg sendirinya...
> > > > >
> > > > > Aria
> > > > >
> > > > > > Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe..
ie :Arutmin,
> KPC
> > > > etc...
> > > > > > tapi manajemennya,,yakkhhhhhh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: up_trends
> > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi,
> > ketimpa
> > > > sial
> > > > > > lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jamal Nasution"
> > <jamal@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > klo cp nya beli banyak berarti mo kesana
> > > > > > > tapi klo belinya cuma dikit berarti barang banyak
nyangkut
> > > > > > > itu riset kapan? sesudah pembatalan KPC ya
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Handika Wisnu
> > > > > > > To: Bandar
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:43 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saya saat ini megang saham BUMI dalam jumlah yg
lumayan
> > banyak
> > > > > > (menurut saya) karena dulu terpikat dgn janji mo bagi
> dividen
> > Rp
> > > > > > 200/saham.
> > > > > > > Nah, yg mo saya tanyain...apakah BUMI masih layak
> > > dipertahankan
> > > > > > ato tidak?
> > > > > > > Soalnya hasil dari cut loss ini akan saya alihkan
untuk
> > invest
> > > > > > options di US market yg return-nya rata2 10% per bulan
> > (strategi
> > > > > > konservatif).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tapi barusan saya baca review BEJ dari pusat riset
> Valbury
> > > > bilang
> > > > > > klo BUMI msh pny masa depan yg bagus, keliatan dari
> banyaknya
> > > > bank2
> > > > > > luar negeri yg msh mo memberikan pinjaman hingga 2x yg
> > diminta.
> > > > > > > Katanya ini menunjukkan bahwa BUMI msh dipercaya sama
> > investor
> > > > > > luar.
> > > > > > > Plus target dlm 3 bulan bisa balik ke 950...dan jika
> > dihitung
> > > > > > fair value based on asset dan Gordon growth model masih
di
> > > > Rp1100 -
> > > > > > Rp1200
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Minta sarannya donk bwt yg sudah senior...mesti
diapain
> ya
> > > saham
> > > > > > ini?
> > > > > > > Soalnya siklus dari pasar options di US market tu tiap
> akhir
> > > > > > October bakal ada major momentum. sayang bgt klo ! ampe
> > kelewat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Terimakasih banyak
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kutipan dari pusat riset Valbury :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Special Mention:
> > > > > > > BUMI: 690-810. Best buy below IDR690. The fact that it
has
> > > > > > secured a foreign bank syndicated loan shows that
> > > > > > > foreign investors have still high confidence in BUMI's
> > > future.
> > > > If
> > > > > > everything goes on smoothly, BUMI may
> > > > > > > return to visit IDR950 within threee months. Fair
value
> > based
> > > on
> > > > > > assets and Gordon growth methodology
> > > > > > > remains at IDR1,100-IDR1,200
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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