I hope Mel goes to the media with this but if she doesn't I sure will. Some of you think you're extremely clever and funny but, really, you are just a bunch of sad little people who will bring down the entire business of ObsWatch which was well intentioned.
Brain - I would have expected something a little more original and/or intelligent from you. JW: you're probably the most honest and straightforward person here; the fact that your comments started it all is irrelevant because it is the RESPONSES that are pathetic and scary and sad. Miss Marple: guess what? you don't always have to chirp in your 2 cents worth. The original Miss Marple was a quiet little lady who knew when to keep her counsel. Justin: yes, the group has one common cause, it's the delivery that some of us have a problem with and which will ultimately cause the demise of all good intentions. Some of you are living in the past and unfamiliar with the differences between watch/observe/report and fascist vigilantism. Makes one wonder how you got that way ... are there some unresolved issues here which cause you to get a hard-on at the thought of beating up a vagrant or thief? Prescribed reading for you all: Jonny Steinberg's Thin Blue. If the analysis of SA's police and crime problems bore you, you can just skip right to the end where he warns about ... community groups! On Dec 4, 4:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 04/12/2008, Johnny Wessels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > u guys are killin' me with your cracks, but please don't stop,..we need > > some gags to negate the heavy stuff somewhat. > > > Brian, Trev,..keep it comin' guys!!! > > > jw > > >> Hi Mel > >> I'm not a fascist - I just walk funny. > >> Brian > > >> On Dec 4, 11:07 am, "Julia Teale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Beautifully expressed Justin. I look forward to meeting you all tonight > >>> too! Julia > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Justin Ashley > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:50 AM > >>> Subject: [obsnw] Re: Pathetic- True Colors > > >>> Mel, I have been watching the exchange between you and JW et al with > >>> half an eye. The reason I haven't responded is not because I am a > >>> "quiet man doing nothing", but because I have taken the opinion that > >>> this is just another fairly typical OBSNW exchange of views between > >>> people who care passionately about their particular viewpoint. And I do > >>> think some of the responses have been provocative and inflammatory - > >>> responses that are guaranteed to get people's blood up. It's the nature > >>> of email exchanges. > > >>> I responded fairly recently to a mail from "A Struit" - who expressed > >>> a view that outraged me. I got a private mail from another ObsNW > >>> subscriber, saying "Don't Feed The Trolls". Check it out > >>> onhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) > > >>> I think maybe we could all follow the advice in this wiki article, and > >>> perhaps we can get this forum back to the purpose for which I believe it > >>> was intended, which is simply as a communication medium to highlight the > >>> crime in Obs and what we need to do to prevent it. > > >>> I don't believe the people who are members of ONW are vermin, cowboys > >>> and fascists. I'm pretty sure that you'll find the full spectrum of > >>> political viewpoints amongst the members. But we're in this for one > >>> reason and one reason only - to reduce crime in a suburb we all love. > > >>> I do hope you come to the ONW meeting tonight. 7pm at the Community > >>> Centre. I would like to meet you and share viewpoints face to face, > >>> rather than over the email! > > >>> Regards > > >>> Justin > > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > >>> Of Mel Hoffman > >>> Sent: 03 December 2008 09:30 PM > >>> To: The Observatory Neighbourhood watch > >>> Subject: [obsnw] Pathetic- True Colors > > >>> Thanks for the true colours Trev. > > >>> I guess vermin sticks together. > > >>> Anyone want to buy a stupid radio? - oh, sorry no repeater. > > >>> Ever wondered why so few people are joining the radio group? So few > > >>> people pitch at meetings? > > >>> It's just that core group, isn't it? > > >>> Cowards, coyboys and fascists, that's all. > > >>> Pallying with the police, posting pictures and videos of people, > > >>> "sitting on your balcony watching the crime walk past". > > >>> Telling me to "turn the other cheek when I get stabbed, or more > > >>> accurately shot in the one." (care of private email of Il Duce Johnny > > >>> Wessels to me privately) > > >>> You can stick your fascist little group, and I hope that you don't get > > >>> more members who think that you are doing good. Because you're not, > > >>> you're just out for your thinly disguised vigilante games. > > >>> And all the people that keep quiet - read your history books and see > > >>> what happens when you look the other way. > > >>> Oh, that radio is definetely up for sale, but I doubt there will be a > > >>> run on it. > > >>> Tomorrow I will be asking the public prosecutor to check on the > > >>> legalities of all that is being said here, and I will send a copy to > > >>> the press, just in case they have the time to concern themselves with > > >>> this pathetic attempt at "crime prevention". > > >>> Melanie Hoffman > > >>> PS: To Michael Muller and Johnny Wessels: Bring it on ... > > >>> __________ NOD32 3662 (20081203) Information __________ > > >>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>> http://www.eset.com-Hide quoted text - > > >>> - Show quoted text - > > > "You may choose to live your life in pieces or you may choose to live your > > life in peace,...we cannot start over and change the beginning, but we can > > start now and change the end,..."- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. 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