Helen, Sure, i understand we need more so here goes:
I cannot remember when last i could walk the pavements which are in proximity to these outlets without sighting shards of glass if not broken bottles.-this is hazardous to people as well as animals. I frequently see people (and not only the vagrant type) urinating against anything that does not resemble their own property. I often(especially on weekends) see groups of people strolling the streets with bottles of beer and the like and after consumption, discard it as you would a sweet wrapper. I cannot remember when last i was not woken during all hours of the night either by rowdy pedestrians or screeching tyres/blaring car radios-nobody will convince me that this is as a result of too much caffeine I cannot remember how long ago i could take a leisurely walk in the neighbourhood without minding my step for shattered car windows -i am convincd this is an alcohol as well as drug-related crime I have forgotten how it feels to be spared the foul language which is emitted by the alcohol infested crowds who frequent lower main road. This trend has long since filtered down to the younger generation. I used to love playing billards until i walked into a pool club/pub in an upstairs venue and saw the shocking amount of teenagers from all walks of life with bottles/glasses of liquor held in their hands who in certain cases were too intoxicated to hold a cue, much less play the game I used to be a regular patron at a particular restaurant in lower main, until i overheard ( they were directly opposite me and quite audible) a table full of children ( the oldest could not have exceeded 16) broadcast their plans for an orgy after a night out at the clubs- there were many empty bottles of alcohol on their table and the time was barely 7pm-at the time i shuddered to imagine the outcome of their evening. I rest my case Helen. ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Swart To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: [obsnw] Re: [iloveobs] Fw: LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATIONS Johnny Just saying there are enough such outlets will not persuade the board to deny these licences, we need more. like the noise, the broken bottles etc and all the other thing that make our lives a misery because of them Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: Johnny Wessels To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:43 PM Subject: [obsnw] Re: [iloveobs] Fw: LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATIONS my personal opinion is that there are enough liquor outlets and booze in obz as it is and the applicants have not once shown any interest whatsoever in addressing or preventing the obvious repercussions which the over indulgence of liquor causes in our neighbourhood. it's all about profits until proven otherwise ----- Original Message ----- From: debra west To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] ; Cedric Thomas ; Bovain ; Amy Grainger Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:44 PM Subject: [obsnw] Re: [iloveobs] Fw: LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATIONS hello helen and cedric, a suburb is an area that has residential and commercial components but too often commercial interests are deemed more important than those of the residents. the implication seems to be that a single business making money is more important than the quality of life of the large number of people who live in the surrounding area and who go to work the next day to make a contribution to the businesses who employ them. this is surely a false viewpoint. hope the authorities will appreciate the needs of residents and people who do business in the areas where liquor licences are approved. cafe hot or hot cafe is opposite the kiddies' park and is open during the day. i feel that's a sensitive environment that shouldn't allow for a liquor licence. the area of lower main road between trill and norfolk rds have been a problem for many, many years. the stretch of road and parking areas are a testament to the behaviour of patrons of adjacent drinking holes - littered with broken glass. i cannot park there because of the danger to my car tyres. often the glass is splattered in the road, in public space. it's never swept away or the road cleaned. even if it were, the drunken and/or unruly behaviour that gives rise to it is unacceptable. if yet another restaurant there were to be given a licence it should be limited to 9 p.m. i feel this is a reasonable hour for diners to partake of a meal with a drink. hopefully patrons would leave in a decent enough state not to toss bottles around and create a danger to passing and parking vehicles. regards, debra west Helen Swart wrote: Hi Obs Please see attached applications, Cafe Hot is on the corner Station & James opposite the kiddies park it was Mai Thai , and Ezithebeni Braai Lounge is opposite Art Source, this too was called something else before. Please send your comments/objections to myself & Cllr thomas before 27th Jan. My appologies to those of you who subscribe to both groups and receive this twice. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: Cedric Reginald Thomas To: Roland Langley ; Helen Swart ; Bovain Macnab ; Amy & John Grainger Cc: Gregory Todd Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: FW: LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATIONS Hi to the relevant stake holders could you please comment on the application relevant to your precinct soonest it would be appreciated. I await your response it would be appreciated. Thanks. Yours In Community Service. Cllr C.R Thomas. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Gregory Todd Sent: 16 January 2009 01:53 PM To: Bettie Leedo; Gregory September; Beverley Soares; Cedric Reginald Thomas; John Jacobus Williams Cc: Mariette Griessel; Brian Watkyns - Icon; Nomthandazo Sipondo Subject: LIQUOR LICENSE APPLICATIONS Attached please find a copy of notices of applications fro liquor licenses submitted to the department of Trade & Industry in term of the Liquor Act, 1989 The notice of the applications all appeared in Government gazette No 31739 on 20090102. Subcouncils have the delegated authority to comment on applications for liquor licenses within twenty eight [28] days from publishing such applications. I look forward to your attention and prompt response as you need to scrutinise the application in terms of the zoning scheme. The opinion is held that City Of Cape Town Planning, Health and Fire & Security have a duty to object to any application where the correct zoning is not in place for the type of license for which application is being made. I need to submit relevant feedback to the relevant Magistrate and SAPS offices and need to include your feedback. I shall appreciate it, if you could let me have your written comment in respect of the attached notices of application[s] before or on 27 January 2009. Regards Gregory Todd Secretary Governance & Interface Subcouncil 15, St Stephens Rd, Pinelands City of Cape Town (Tel: +27(0)215313437 7 Fax::+27(0)215313319 š Email: [email protected] " Internet: http://www.capetown.gov.za NOTE: This e-mail (including attachments) is subject to the disclaimer published at: http://www.capetown.gov.za/en/Pages/disclaimer.aspx. Please read the disclaimer before opening any attachment or taking any other action in terms of this e-mail. 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