I stand corrected and I vote we get rid of all these nasty electrified fencing! They are, after all, illegal. And just for the record I do love animals and children but I don't think there is too much room here for emotions.
On Jul 22, 8:40 pm, Big Brian <[email protected]> wrote: > The Occupational Health and Safety Act is quite clear on this matter: > When an electric fence is installed along a public road or in an urban > area the user shall- > (a) As far is practicable mount the electrified wires or articles in > such positions that persons cannot inadvertenly come into contact > therewith; and > (b) display notices conspicuously, warning people that the property is > protected by an electric fence. > Children and dogs/cats may not be able to read, therefore (a) applies. > The Occupational Health and Safety Act over-rules any City by-law. > I trust that this clarifies the matter and that steps are taken to > correct the installation, before some-one is electrocuted. > Thank you for a very interesting topic. I am delighted that you are > enlightened. > Please check your electrical installation at home and work. > > Brian Gray. > > On Jul 22, 2:15 pm, "Absolutely Fabulous Artist" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > i agree > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Julia Teale" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:11 PM > > Subject: [obsnw] Re: Electric Fencing at Spirit Sister Productions > > > > Sorry Demann, you have got it wrong here. Noisy dogs ward of curious > > > children and warn their parents to keep an eye on them when passing by. > > > The > > > fence is too risky all round. Kiddies walking home from school unattended > > > could come to harm and they shouldn't. Small animals could get badly hurt > > > or frightened and run into the traffic, causing accidents and losing their > > > lives. Yes, people should take care of their kids and pets, most of us > > > do, > > > many of us slip up from time to time, kids and dogs go walk-about. They > > > should not be in any more danger than they already are. > > > > Julia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Helen Swart" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:29 PM > > > Subject: [obsnw] Re: Electric Fencing at Spirit Sister Productions > > > >> I agree with Jonathan, > > >> Anything that is a threat to our chidren, pets and ourselves should not > > >> be > > >> tolerated. Children are very inquisitive and touch everything they see. > > > >> H > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Jonathan Endersby" <[email protected]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:51 PM > > >> Subject: [obsnw] Re: Electric Fencing at Spirit Sister Productions > > > >> Hi > > > >> I couldn't disagree with demann more. A dog makes a big scary noise. > > >> Toddlers and small children aren't stupid. We're also talking about a > > >> couple of centimeters between the palisade and the electric wires, you > > >> could trip, and easily end up touching that wire by mistake. Children > > >> like to explore and touch things and I can easily imagine how a parent > > >> walking with their child might not notice the electric wires a few > > >> centimeters behind the fence. > > > >> As for your argument that people should be able to protect their > > >> property as they see fit? Where do you draw the line? If I want to put > > >> a landmine in my garden, is that okay with you? I would assume not... > > >> So there have to be rules about what is acceptable. Lets find out what > > >> those rules are and make sure they're being adhered to. > > > >> A similar electric fence setup has been installed on the corner of > > >> Lower Main and Gordon. > > > >> regards > > >> Jonathan. > > > >> 2009/7/22 demann <[email protected]>: > > > >>> I have to agree with Trevor on this one, I think each person should be > > >>> entitled to protect their property as they see fit and that there > > >>> seems to be some emotional prejudice here against electric fencing and > > >>> a toddler seems to be involved. What are the regulations around dogs > > >>> and how far they are allowd to be from the outer fence of a property? > > >>> It has just occured to me that a toddler sticking his hand through a > > >>> fence with a vicious dog on the other side will come to a lot more > > >>> harm than one touching an electrified fence. Also I think the > > >>> toddler's parent/gaudian should be held responsible for such injuries > > >>> to toddlers and not the object causing the injury. Negligence is a far > > >>> greater problem than electric fencing! > > > >>> On Jul 21, 2:33 pm, Trevor Hughes <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:10 PM, > > >>>> Mitxcoac<[email protected]> > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> > The maximum height of electric fence permitted is 450 mm > > > >>>> > An electric fence must be at least 1.8m above the ground level at any > > >>>> > point. > > > >>>> That document is confusing to say the least. It also states that the > > >>>> maximum height for a street facing boundary wall is 1.8 there fore any > > >>>> electric element above 1,8 must be illegal as it rasie the height ot > > >>>> the boundary wall over 1.8??????? > > > >>>> Maybe OR maybe not. But if you read that regulation probably a large > > >>>> percentage of existing fences in Obs and the city do not comply with > > >>>> the draft. I don't think electric fencing should necessarily be > > >>>> specifically picked out in this regard. Has anyone heard of any > > >>>> verifiable stories of death or serious injury by electric fence. It > > >>>> seems to be more an emotional issue attached to the use of > > >>>> electricity. > > > >>>> Trev > > > >> -- > > >> Jonathan Endersby > > >> +27 82 4143129 > > >>www.arbitraryuser.com > > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > > >> Checked by AVG -www.avg.com > > >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.22/2253 - Release Date: > > >> 07/21/09 > > >> 18:02:00 > > > >> __________ NOD32 4265 (20090721) Information __________ > > > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > >>http://www.eset.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Observatory Neighbourhood watch" group. 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