Hi all,

I believe something is always missing in OFBiz. Ability for users to enter 
prices with taxes (gross pricing). Not only ability to show prices with taxes 
as it is now (in eCommerce for instance) .

This message is mostly intended to summarise situation and hopefully find a 
reasonable solution (perhaps but I hope not, only for my future usage). Sorry 
for the long post.

Here is a David's quote from a thread initiated by Manuel Meyer : 
http://www.nabble.com/-OFBiz--Users---VAT-and-rounding-tf156901.html
<<Perhaps the biggest problem with having prices that include tax is  
that then you either have to have all sorts of prices for different  
tax authorities, or, well, or I don't know. This wouldn't be a  
problem if are only selling from one place, ie only have one tax  
"nexus", but designing for that is something I'm trying to avoid...>>

At beginning a very simple way for POS (and even some eCommerce sites) should 
be sufficient (one "nexus" option). I have no time yet but I wonder if before 
going for others POS tasks this one should not be fulfilled. I had a discussion 
with Ray Barlow about that point and for him (and others people I guess) it's 
really a problem for some prospective clients. Specially if they want to use 
OFBiz accounting.

This Si's quote is also interesting ("keep it simple" way, even if I'm not sure 
it's not deprecated now by the Tax Autorithies mechanism)
<<It seems, though, that longer term we'll need to be able to support both 
the US (tax added on top of price) and European (flat price including a 
tax) formats.  It seems that it might not be so hard if we do it this way:
1.  Create a new tax type
2.  Additional code which calculates that tax for that type, including 
correct rounding formulae
3.  An added field for OrderAdjustment which denotes whether it should 
be added back to the order item's amounts (in the case of US sales 
taxes) or is there just for informational purposes (in the case of 
European/VAT), since the flat price includes the tax
4.  GL posting should work fine once the correct amounts in 
OrderAdjustment or at most require a small change.
I think it might be nice to break the sales tax calculation code into a 
master which calls several different routines or services depending on 
the tax type, so we can keep the implementation separate or call an 
outside service if it's available.>>

But this David's response from previous comment seems to have stopped this 
thread :
http://www.nabble.com/-OFBiz--Users---VAT-and-rounding-tf156901.html#a999193
Now, David do you think that it's possible to do something for "gross pricing" 
with the current tax model and calculation ?

Here are also some newer interesting threads
http://www.nabble.com/GST-VAT-status-tf2056121.html 
http://www.nabble.com/Users---UK-VAT-p4640028.html
http://www.nabble.com/Users---tax-functionality-tf1428622.html
http://www.nabble.com/GST-VAT-on-purchases-tf2061686.html (discouraged by David)
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Dev---Adding-the-taxAuthorityRateSeqId-field-to%09theOrderAdjustment-entity-tf1374986.html
http://www.nabble.com/Dev---Mods-to-the-TaxAuth-services-to-display-party%27s-taxes-in-prices-instead-of-product-store%27s-one-tf1498508.html


And older threads about Tax Autorithies implementation
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Users----OFBiz--Dev---VAT-in-POS-tf825562.html 
(this has to be generalised)
http://www.nabble.com/-OFBiz--Dev---RE%3A-VAT-price-guidance-tf342240.html

A new related Jira issue : http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-366 
Other related stuffes in Jira
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-113
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-147 (I will try to solve this today)
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-164


Jacques

PS : There are also valuable informations in old Wiki : search "VAT" (notably 
http://ofbizwiki.go-integral.com/Wiki.jsp?page=TaxAuthorityDataModel)

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