Joerg Schilling wrote:
> "Shawn Walker" <swalker at opensolaris.org> wrote:
>
>
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Joerg Schilling
>>
>
>
>>> This is why the OpenSolaris cummunity proposed Sun to use a new trademark
>>> for
>>> an OpenSolaris based distro.
>>>
>> *watches point fly by responder*
>>
>> Let's try this again.
>>
>> Canonical controls the Ubuntu trademark *and the community* that
>> surrounds their distribution.
>>
>> RedHat controls the Fedora trademark *and the community* that
>> surrounds their distribution.
>>
>
> If you did really understand the problem, why do you still tell people that
> you
> disagree?
>
> Ubuntu et al are all creating distros from a project called "Linux",
> we and Sun are all creating distros from a project called "OpenSolaris".
>
Linux is a kernel project (only). The other bits, are taken and
coalesced to make a distribution. Trying to cast the entire basis of
Ubuntu or RedHat as derived from a single Linux project is, IMO, not
really understanding how the Linux pieces fit together. There are
multiple projects, many of which have little to do with each other,
which make the various Linux distributions.
> If Sun follows the example of Ubuntu and other Linux distros, we had no
> problem.
> Let Sun just create their trademark from their OpenSolaris distro, but don't
> let them call it "OpenSolaris" as no Linux distro is called "Linux".
>
Again, Linux is *only* a kernel. Everything else is taken from other
FOSS projects.
I'm not sure there is much real merit in comparing Linux distributions
to OpenSolaris.
Btw, this whole debate over the name has, IMO, become rather tiresome.
I am doubtful that what has already been done is going to change -- the
community can register their displeasure, but once that is done, is
there any real point of the continuing debate? Apart from basically
alienating one group or another?
Likewise the public flamage of either individual Sun employees or of Sun
as a corporate entity seems less than helpful. It certainly doesn't
make me (as a Sun employee) feel inclined to increase my participation
in OpenSolaris. If anything, the effect is rather the opposite. I want
to be a proponent of open development, and community involvement within
Sun (and my group in particular), but I will point out that the current
climate of anti-Sun sentiment makes it a lot harder for me to be an
effective proponent to the continued opening up of the activities of my
group. I suspect that others in the company are feeling the same way.
(Right now, to be quite honest, some in this community sound like
spoiled children -- they've been given a lot of great stuff, but when
they don't get their way on one particular issue, they lash out.)
Can we please stop arguing, flaming, bashing, and get back to the
business of creating great software?
I'll go crawl back under my rock now. Let me know when the dust has
settled and it is safe to come back out in the open....
-- Garrett
