James Carlson wrote: > I don't think that's the case. My feeling on it is that focusing on > the desktop group as the only one to implode is just premature and > doesn't seem to help advance us in any useful direction. I thought I > was clear in saying "at this time."
I thought at the time we were voting that we were deciding not to force any action on the Desktop community group at this time and would discuss giving them advice to make Indiana a separate community group. (Advice I've already informally given them personally. [1]) I felt that forcing a split from above would require answering questions we don't have answers to yet about what the charter of the new community group would be going forward - is to produce an as-yet-unnamed distro that is one of seven peers, to produce a reference distro, or to produce the one-true-distro ? Could we even decide what to call it? Is it "The Distro community"? "Community Indiana"? "The OpenSolaris-but-Trademarks-are-Forbidden-In-Community-Names Distro Community"? A one-community-for-all-distros charter that covered Indiana, Belenix, Schillix, etc. wouldn't fit with the other recent discussions about community governance and scoping. I actually feel some of the formalism we've adopted lately is leading to worse decision making as we don't discuss these things as well as we did before, and when questions came up in the middle of the vote, they were ruled as out of order and never re-addressed. (Specifically, when Keith & Rich voted "No", was that because you felt more discussion was needed, that we should consider another action, or because you agreed with the proposal to dissolve?) And I know Ben is annoyed that at the end of the meeting, no one formally moved to adopt his proposal, so we didn't even discuss whether we were just out of time for that meeting, thought it was premature given the trademark policy discussion going on elsewhere, or just plain a bad idea. [1] http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/desktop-discuss/2007-November/011262.html -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith at sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering
