> woodelf
>
> part of the problem is deciding
> when something is "one work" and when it can legitimately be
> considered multiple works that share one physical medium (pair of
> covers, CD, whatever).

Exactly, and no definition or citation of examples will ever be
all-encompassing or cover every situation.  That's why it doesn't really
matter whether open material appears in the same work as closed material.

> i don't like the idea of someone profiting
> (and i'm as concerned about mind-share profit as monetary) from my
> work, which i have specifically chosen to make open, without
> themselves making their work open--they're gaining the benefits of
> open content (reuse of others' content) without the ideal (releasing
> your own content).

So the issue is not really with your work, but rather with the authors who
would benefit from your work but decide not to share as you did.  While I
can understand your point of view, I find it inconsistent.  The open source
movement is not a club where your act of sharing is your membership card.
Open source is rooted in the free exchange of ideas.  Either you believe
that ideas expressed in writing can/should be shared freely, or you believe
that by writing an idea down you have collapsed its potential into  tangible
property.  I don't mean to say that all ideas are created equal, and I don't
find it inconsistent when a person chooses to share one idea and hold dear a
different one.  I find it inconsistent when a person chooses to share his
idea only in a quid-pro-quo manner.  Open source means sharing with
everyone, not just with people who think like you do.  Either you believe in
the ideal of the free exchange of ideas or your don't.  You can't have it
both ways.

> [though i'm confused as to why you think Red Hat wouldn't
> exist--when i got a version (years ago), there was nothing
> proprietary on the CD.  has this changed?]

I don't mean the Red Hat distribution per se, but rather Red Hat Inc., the
publicly traded company that polished the current distribution to a such a
high-gloss shine  that corporate executives could see their bottom line
reflected in it.  Do you really think Oracle would have touched Linux if it
was still an unsupported hobby OS like it was when the first Red Hat
distribution came out?  No one can really say, but I find it highly
unlikely.

-Brad

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