Actually, copyright law says you are not allowed to copy a work. Can't photocopy, can't scan, can't type out by hand, can't transcribe with a pencil. Doesn't matter whether it is for personal use or not. A fine line - particularly when it comes to enforcement, but worth noting the distinction - especially to anyone who might be thinking of working with Open Works.You are still free to compile all spells that wizards has released in their printed books, but you are not allowed to distribute such a work.
Faust
-Brad
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:ogf-l-admin@;opengamingfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Jason hardy
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Ogf-l] RE: Spells
>
>
> Sorry still working on figuring out what all has been opened to
> general use
> and disbersement.
>
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:21:34 -0700
> > From: "Brad Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] Fw: Spells
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > Jason hardy
> > >
> > > > Hi I am working on compiling a master list of all the spells
> throughout
> > > the
> > > > D&D world. I was wondering if anyone had Magic of Faerun, or any of
> the
> > > > other books in a picture or rtf format
> >
> > That material is outside of the scope of Open Gaming.
> Distribution of such
> > material is illegal; such requests really aren't appropriate for this
> list.
> >
> > -Brad
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 5
> > From: "Faustus von Goethe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Ogf-l] Fw: Spells
> > Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:30:10 +0000
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "Compile?" You mean ... like ... in the illegal, copyright violation
> sense
> > of the word?
> >
> > Faust
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Jason hardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: [Ogf-l] Fw: Spells
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:54:00 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi I am working on compiling a master list of all the spells
> throughout
> > >the
> > > > D&D world. I was wondering if anyone had Magic of Faerun, or any of
> the
> > > > other books in a picture or rtf format
> > > >
> > >_______________________________________________
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> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 6
> > From: "Martin L. Shoemaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:19:45 -0500
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:ogf-l-admin@;opengamingfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
> > > Robert J Defendi
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:59 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, I'm new to the list. How ya all doing?
> > >
> > > I have a general question. Probably common knowledge but I
> > > couldn't find it in the archives. Since the splatbooks and
> > > Epic Levels aren't open content, can they be used in any
> > > form? For instance, can I give a character in a d20 product
> > > a prestige class from Tome of Blood is I don't do anything
> > > but list the name and level and refer you to the book? Also,
> > > what can I do with writing up higher than twentieth level characters?
> >
> > Please understand, I mean the utmost respect when I say the following...
> >
> > PLEASE read the licenses and the guide:
> >
> > http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/OGLv1.0a.rtf
> > http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/d20stlv3.rtf
> > http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/d20guide.rtf
> >
> > Then PLEASE read the official FAQs:
> >
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417a
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417b
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417c
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417d
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417h
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417e
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417f
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417g
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417i
> >
> > Then PLEASE reference the official SRD site at Wizards:
> >
> > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=srd
> >
> > And then PLEASE reference the pre-release SRD site at the OGF:
> >
> > http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd.html
> >
> > I know this sounds like "RTFM"; but the fact is, there are certain
> > pieces of basic knowledge you just have to have to understand the
> > discussions on these lists. Your question is answered in these
> > documents, if you take the time to read them VERY carefully.
> >
> > Now to anticipate some possible responses:
> >
> > 1. "I already read them, but I didn't find or couldn't understand
> > understand the answer." Fair enough. These licenses and FAQs are a lot
> > to digest all at once, and it never hurts to have some help. These lists
> > are a good place for some basic answers.
> >
> > 2. "I tried to read them, but there's a lot of legalese and stuff I
> > didn't understand, so I got lost." Fair enough. We've all been there.
> > Maybe we can help you.
> >
> > 3. "I tried to read them, but there's a lot of legalese and stuff I
> > didn't understand, so I decided to skip them." Not fair at all. Foul,
> > even. Like it or not, if you're going to publish (or distribute IN ANY
> > WAY) under the OGL and the d20 System License, you WILL be responsible
> > for knowing and understanding and complying with the contents of these
> > licenses. Folks on these lists will be glad to help in that
> > understanding as best we can; but they'll expect that you've made the
> > basic effort to get into the game, so to speak.
> >
> > Martin L. Shoemaker
> >
> > Martin L. Shoemaker Consulting, Software Design and UML Training
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.MartinLShoemaker.com
> > http://www.UMLBootCamp.com
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 7
> > From: "Robert J Defendi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:03:47 -0700
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I've read all the ones I was able to find before posting, but you might
> > have some here that I couldn't. (As I said, I did go through the
> > archives looking for this information as well). I'll go back through
> > these and see if there's a doc here I didn't know about. The base
> > website for this list has very little in the way of directions into
> > finding this stuff and the Wizard's site doesn't' seemed to be designed
> > to promote d20 questions(I spent a week looking before posting here).
> > Anyway, thanks for all the links I'll go over them all and see if it
> > helps. I know for a fact, I didn't find that many FAQ's on the Wizard's
> > website, so there's probably data there I didn't find.
> >
> > The legalese was daunting, and to my mind ambiguous (I could interpret
> > their miniatures clause a dozen different ways). Usually I'm good at
> > reading contracts (I've never had problem with my work for hire
> > contracts, at any rate.)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ogf-l-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin L. Shoemaker
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:20 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > >
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:ogf-l-admin@;opengamingfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
> > > > Robert J Defendi
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:59 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey, I'm new to the list. How ya all doing?
> > > >
> > > > I have a general question. Probably common knowledge but I
> > > > couldn't find it in the archives. Since the splatbooks and
> > > > Epic Levels aren't open content, can they be used in any
> > > > form? For instance, can I give a character in a d20 product
> > > > a prestige class from Tome of Blood is I don't do anything
> > > > but list the name and level and refer you to the book? Also,
> > > > what can I do with writing up higher than twentieth level
> > characters?
> > >
> > > Please understand, I mean the utmost respect when I say the
> > following...
> > >
> > > PLEASE read the licenses and the guide:
> > >
> > > http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/OGLv1.0a.rtf
> > > http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/d20stlv3.rtf
> > > http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/d20guide.rtf
> > >
> > > Then PLEASE read the official FAQs:
> > >
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417a
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417b
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417c
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417d
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417h
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417e
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417f
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417g
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417i
> > >
> > > Then PLEASE reference the official SRD site at Wizards:
> > >
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=srd
> > >
> > > And then PLEASE reference the pre-release SRD site at the OGF:
> > >
> > > http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd.html
> > >
> > > I know this sounds like "RTFM"; but the fact is, there are certain
> > > pieces of basic knowledge you just have to have to understand the
> > > discussions on these lists. Your question is answered in these
> > > documents, if you take the time to read them VERY carefully.
> > >
> > > Now to anticipate some possible responses:
> > >
> > > 1. "I already read them, but I didn't find or couldn't understand
> > > understand the answer." Fair enough. These licenses and FAQs are a lot
> > > to digest all at once, and it never hurts to have some help. These
> > lists
> > > are a good place for some basic answers.
> > >
> > > 2. "I tried to read them, but there's a lot of legalese and stuff I
> > > didn't understand, so I got lost." Fair enough. We've all been there.
> > > Maybe we can help you.
> > >
> > > 3. "I tried to read them, but there's a lot of legalese and stuff I
> > > didn't understand, so I decided to skip them." Not fair at all. Foul,
> > > even. Like it or not, if you're going to publish (or distribute IN ANY
> > > WAY) under the OGL and the d20 System License, you WILL be responsible
> > > for knowing and understanding and complying with the contents of these
> > > licenses. Folks on these lists will be glad to help in that
> > > understanding as best we can; but they'll expect that you've made the
> > > basic effort to get into the game, so to speak.
> > >
> > > Martin L. Shoemaker
> > >
> > > Martin L. Shoemaker Consulting, Software Design and UML Training
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.MartinLShoemaker.com
> > > http://www.UMLBootCamp.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Ogf-l mailing list
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 8
> > From: "Robert J Defendi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:56:14 -0700
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Dude. I had read all that. Of course, this time I read it it's obvious
> > that I can't use classes from splat books. Evidently, I burned myself
> > out on the first search of material and didn't get everything from it I
> > should.
> >
> > Okay, so that leaves me with a clarification of one of my questions.
> > I'm converting some material to d20 right now. I have characters that
> > by all rights need to be WAY over twentieth level. Without violating
> > the license or creating a new class system (like Everquest did), what
> > would you all suggest I do. Is it legal to list a character's level as
> > thirty, then make a note that this work doesn't' contain information on
> > character's above twentieth level?
> >
> > A new question. I one of those documents (I think it was the d20 guide,
> > it seems to say you can reference the PH, the DMG, the MM or Psionics
> > Handbook. In the FAQ's it says you can't. Is one of these out of date,
> > or am I misreading again?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ogf-l-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin L. Shoemaker
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:20 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > >
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:ogf-l-admin@;opengamingfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
> > > > Robert J Defendi
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:59 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey, I'm new to the list. How ya all doing?
> > > >
> > > > I have a general question. Probably common knowledge but I
> > > > couldn't find it in the archives. Since the splatbooks and
> > > > Epic Levels aren't open content, can they be used in any
> > > > form? For instance, can I give a character in a d20 product
> > > > a prestige class from Tome of Blood is I don't do anything
> > > > but list the name and level and refer you to the book? Also,
> > > > what can I do with writing up higher than twentieth level
> > characters?
> > >
> > > Please understand, I mean the utmost respect when I say the
> > following...
> > >
> > > PLEASE read the licenses and the guide:
> > >
> > > http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/OGLv1.0a.rtf
> > > http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/d20stlv3.rtf
> > > http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/d20guide.rtf
> > >
> > > Then PLEASE read the official FAQs:
> > >
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417a
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417b
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417c
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417d
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417h
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417e
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417f
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417g
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417i
> > >
> > > Then PLEASE reference the official SRD site at Wizards:
> > >
> > > http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=srd
> > >
> > > And then PLEASE reference the pre-release SRD site at the OGF:
> > >
> > > http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd.html
> > >
> > > I know this sounds like "RTFM"; but the fact is, there are certain
> > > pieces of basic knowledge you just have to have to understand the
> > > discussions on these lists. Your question is answered in these
> > > documents, if you take the time to read them VERY carefully.
> > >
> > > Now to anticipate some possible responses:
> > >
> > > 1. "I already read them, but I didn't find or couldn't understand
> > > understand the answer." Fair enough. These licenses and FAQs are a lot
> > > to digest all at once, and it never hurts to have some help. These
> > lists
> > > are a good place for some basic answers.
> > >
> > > 2. "I tried to read them, but there's a lot of legalese and stuff I
> > > didn't understand, so I got lost." Fair enough. We've all been there.
> > > Maybe we can help you.
> > >
> > > 3. "I tried to read them, but there's a lot of legalese and stuff I
> > > didn't understand, so I decided to skip them." Not fair at all. Foul,
> > > even. Like it or not, if you're going to publish (or distribute IN ANY
> > > WAY) under the OGL and the d20 System License, you WILL be responsible
> > > for knowing and understanding and complying with the contents of these
> > > licenses. Folks on these lists will be glad to help in that
> > > understanding as best we can; but they'll expect that you've made the
> > > basic effort to get into the game, so to speak.
> > >
> > > Martin L. Shoemaker
> > >
> > > Martin L. Shoemaker Consulting, Software Design and UML Training
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.MartinLShoemaker.com
> > > http://www.UMLBootCamp.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Ogf-l mailing list
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 9
> > From: "Martin L. Shoemaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 04:03:51 -0500
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:ogf-l-admin@;opengamingfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
> > > Robert J Defendi
> > > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:56 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] New to the List
> > >
> > >
> > > Dude. I had read all that.
> >
> > Glad to hear it. Sorry if I was a nag. But every so often, somebody has
> > to make sure new folks are reading the licenses and the FAQs, and your
> > question seemed like a good opportunity.
> >
> >
> > > Of course, this time I read it
> > > it's obvious that I can't use classes from splat books.
> > > Evidently, I burned myself out on the first search of
> > > material and didn't get everything from it I should.
> >
> > 'Sallright. It happens to all of us. There's a lot there, and no one can
> > keep it all straight all the time.
> >
> >
> > > Okay, so that leaves me with a clarification of one of my
> > > questions. I'm converting some material to d20 right now. I
> > > have characters that by all rights need to be WAY over
> > > twentieth level. Without violating the license or creating a
> > > new class system (like Everquest did), what would you all
> > > suggest I do. Is it legal to list a character's level as
> > > thirty, then make a note that this work doesn't' contain
> > > information on character's above twentieth level?
> >
> > Here's another one of those things that needs to be said from time to
> > time: I am not a lawyer. Nor am I The Guy with a Law Degree Who's Not a
> > Lawyer (but who teaches law). This is just what I understand, so you'll
> > want real legal advice before you release. Given that...
> >
> > This actually sounds pretty good to me. It's both within the letter and
> > within the spirit:
> >
> > LETTER: You never once mention the Epic Level Handbook or the material
> > in it. Thus, you haven't derived from any non-open work.
> >
> > SPIRIT: For those who know the game, you've strongly IMPLIED the Epic
> > Level Handbook; and if they want to know what level 30 means in game
> > effects, they have to go buy the book. That's the "spirit" behind the
> > d20 license: "You can use our logo, as long as it has a decent chance of
> > selling our books."
> >
> > So I think that if you did JUST what you said, you'd be fine. As soon as
> > you mentioned ONE special power or ability from the Epic Level Handbook,
> > though, your ground might get shaky.
> >
> >
> > > A new question. I one of those documents (I think it was the
> > > d20 guide, it seems to say you can reference the PH, the DMG,
> > > the MM or Psionics Handbook. In the FAQ's it says you can't.
> > > Is one of these out of date, or am I misreading again?
> >
> > First, you're right: the FAQ here
> > (http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417d) appears to be out
> > of date. It says:
> >
> > ****************************************************************
> >
> > Q: Can I reference the Player's Handbook or any other published d20
> > product?
> >
> > A: You can reference "Player's Handbook," because that's not a
> > trademark. "Dungeon Master" and "Monster Manual" are, so you can't
> > reference the DMG or the MM.
> >
> > ****************************************************************
> >
> > This contradicts the latest guide, as we'll see below.
> >
> > Now the details of referencing the books contain some subtleties. Some
> > of the book titles contain trademarks, so the license precludes you from
> > using them; but it doesn't preclude you from using abbreviations that
> > don't include the trademarks. It allows you to use other titles either
> > in long form or abbreviated. Still other titles are just plain off
> > limits for now. (And yes, you might find some argument under trademark
> > law that makes you think that you can use an off-limits title; but
> > remember that Wizards can change the d20 System License at will. If you
> > find some sort of loophole, they'll just close it; so it may be easier
> > to keep with the spirit they intended.) Here's the relevant text from
> > the latest guide:
> >
> > ****************************************************************
> >
> > Citations of other Wizards of the Coast products in Covered Works:
> >
> > You may refer to the Dungeon Master's Guide as the DMG, the Monster
> > Manual as the MM. You may cite the Player's Handbook by title, or as
> > the PHB. You may cite the Psionics Handbook by title. You must not
> > cite page number references, because pagination may change in future
> > printings. You may cite chapter, heading, and subheading titles from
> > the DMG, the MM, the PHB or the Psionics Handbook.
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > "See DMG Chapter 3, Special Abilities, Charm and Compulsion for more
> > information."
> >
> > At this time, you may not make reference by title to any other Wizards
> > of the Coast products.
> >
> > ****************************************************************
> >
> > Let's hope that, as soon as d20 Modern is out, we see most of its
> > crunchy bits entered into the SRD, and the guide updated to allow us to
> > reference it where appropriate.
> >
> > Don't forget: there's also the mandatory citations. From the latest
> > guide:
> >
> > ****************************************************************
> >
> > Mandatory Trademark Use:
> >
> > You MUST include, visibly and in a readable size, on the cover or back
> > cover (or title page of works without covers) of the Covered Product,
> > one or more of the following text blocks:
> >
> > "Requires the use of the Dungeons & Dragons(R) Player's Handbook, Third
> > Edition, published by Wizards of the Coast(R)"
> >
> > or
> >
> > "Requires the use of the Dungeons & Dragons(R), Third Edition Core
> > Books, published by Wizards of the Coast(R)"
> > or
> >
> > "Requires the use of the Dungeons & Dragons(R), Third Edition Core
> > Books, and the Psionics Handbook, published by Wizards of the Coast(R)"
> >
> > or
> >
> > "Requires the use of a Roleplaying Game Core Book published by Wizards
> > of the Coast(R)"
> >
> > Elsewhere in the work, at a reasonable size, you must include the
> > following text:
> >
> > You must also include the following legal text in a reasonably legible
> > font, point size and color somewhere in the work:
> >
> > "Dungeons & Dragons(R) and Wizards of the Coast(R) are Registered
> > Trademarks of Wizards of the Coast, and are used with Permission."
> >
> > If you do not use "Dungeons & Dragons" anywhere in the work, you may
> > instead use the following legal text:
> >
> > "Wizards of the Coast(R) is a Registered Trademark of Wizards of the
> > Coast and is used with Permission."
> >
> > Permission is granted to translate this text into a non-English
> > language, provided that the English text is also included, and that the
> > translated text is identified as non-official.
> >
> > ****************************************************************
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> > Martin L. Shoemaker
> >
> > Martin L. Shoemaker Consulting, Software Design and UML Training
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> > http://www.UMLBootCamp.com
> >
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