Thanks, Richard - I should have added ol-d to the thread as well. OL has come up a few times in the recent discussion as an example of a project aligned with such a citation index; as a core use case -- data source and reusre -- or more.
What is the most ambitious version of OL's scope? Could it include every citable source (the Wayback Machine would make an interesting special collection, in that case, and a fascinating thesis on classification), or is it limited to works one would find catalogued in a traditional library? SJ On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Richard Light <rich...@light.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > Forwarding as requested ... > > Richard > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jodi Schneider <jschnei...@pobox.com> > To: public-lld <public-...@w3.org>, Code for Libraries > <code4...@listserv.nd.edu> > Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:24:25 +0100 > Subject: "universal citation index" > There've been some interesting discussions on Wiki-research-l about > citations lately, including a post today about using a centralized, semantic > wiki as a repository for all the world's citations, using infobox-based > citation templates, and expressing "cited by" relationships as backlinks. > For LLD, "open metadata repository" is a nice use case (perhaps bringing > indexing and abstracting back in style!); for Code4Lib, there may be some > synergy with past projects, and note the mention of UPEI's k4all. > Beyond what's below, if you want to follow the other recent conversations, > see the thread "Fwd: modern foundations of scientific consensus thread" > from June [1] (one late post in July [2] by Daniel Mietchen) as well as 4 > posts yesterday/today. > -Jodi > http://jodischneider.com/ > PS-If someone could share with an appropriate OpenLibrary list I'd be > grateful! > > [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2010-June/thread.html > [2] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2010-July/thread.html > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Brian J Mingus <brian.min...@colorado.edu> > Date: 19 July 2010 21:20:15 GMT+01:00 > To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities > <wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wiki-research-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's proposal > for a "universal citation index" > Reply-To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities > <wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org> > > I have been working with Sam and others for some time now on brainstorming a > proposal for the Foundation to create a centralized wiki of citations, a > WikiCite so to speak, if that is not the eventual name. My plan is to > continue to discuss with folks who are knowledgeable and interested in such > a project and to have the feedback I receive go into the proposal which I > hope to write this summer. The proposal white paper will then be sent around > to interested parties for corrections and feedback, including on-wiki and > mailing lists, before eventually landing at the Foundation officially. As we > know WMF has not started a new project in some years, so there is no > official process. Thus I find it important to get it right. > The basic idea is a centralized wiki that contains citation information that > other MediaWikis and WMF projects can then reference using something like a > {{cite}} template or a simple link. The community can document the citation, > the author, the book etc.. and, in one idealization, all citations across > all wikis would point to the same article on WikiCite. Users can use this > wiki as their personal bibliography as well, as collections of citations can > be exported in arbitrary citation formats. This general plan would allow > community aggregation of metadata and community documentation of sources > along arbitrary dimensions (quality, trust, reliability, etc.). The hope is > that such a resource would then expand on that wiki and across the projects > into summarizations of collections of sources (lit reviews) that > make navigating entire fields of literature easier and more > reliable, getting you out of the trap of not being aware of the global > context that a particular source sits in. > To give all a more concrete view, here is an example from some software that > I have implemented in our lab called WikiPapers. Please take note that while > this is a scientific literature example, the idea is general to *all > publications ever*. Also, while I have implemented a feature-full version of > a WikiCite, it's important to point out that for the WMF project we will > need a new extension that handles the needs of the project exactly, and in > PHP (I use Python :). > The name of the wiki article is a unique key that is a combination of the > author names and the year, in the following format: > Author1Author2Author3EtAl10b. This works for scientific articles, but we may > find we need to modify the key for other kinds of sources. The content of > the wiki article is composed of an infobox constructed via the Citation > template, and any other text and media the community determines it is useful > and legal to include in the article. Example article: > Screenshot of how this infobox renders on our > wiki: http://grey.colorado.edu/mediawiki/sites/mingus/images/0/0e/KangHsuKrajbichEtAl10_infobox.png > Title: KangHsuKrajbichEtAl09 > {{Citation > |publisher=SAGE Publications > |dateadded=2010-07-17 > |author=Kang M.J. and Hsu M. and Krajbich I.M. and Loewenstein G. and > McClure S.M. and Wang J.T. and Camerer C.F. > |url=http://pss.sagepub.com/content/20/8/963.full > |abstract=Curiosity has been described as a desire for learning and > knowledge, but its underlying mechanisms are not well understood. We scanned > subjects with functional magnetic resonance imaging while they read trivia > questions. The level of curiosity when reading questions was correlated with > activity in caudate regions previously suggested to be involved in > anticipated reward. This finding led to a behavioral study, which showed > that subjects spent more scarce resources (either limited tokens or waiting > time) to find out answers when they were more curious. The functional > imaging also showed that curiosity increased activity in memory areas when > subjects guessed incorrectly, which suggests that curiosity may enhance > memory for surprising new information. This prediction about memory > enhancement was confirmed in a behavioral study: Higher curiosity in an > initial session was correlated with better recall of surprising answers 1 to > 2 weeks later. > |title=The Wick in the Candle of Learning > |bibtex type=article > |number=8 > |volume=20 > |owner=Sethherd > |journal=Psychological Science > |year=2009 > |cites=O'ReillyFrank06,Cowan95,Wise04,Fuster80,Panksepp98,KakadeDayan02b,DelgadoLockeStengerEtAl03,BrewerZhaoDesmondEtAl98,DelgadoNystromFiez00,Beatty82,Baddeley92,Waanabe96,Roland93lm,DelgadoNystromFissellEtAl00,WagnerSchacterRotteEtAl98,SeymourDawDayanEtAl07,ODoherty04,BandettiniMoonen99,ODohertyDayanFristonEtAl03,RogersOwenRobbins99,KnutsonWestdorpKaiserEtAl00,CircuitryMemory,OReillyFrank06,Watanabe96a,BrewerZhaoGabrieli98,WagnerSchacterBuckner98,RogersOwenMiddletonEtAl99,Baddeley86,Watanabe96,Rolls96a,PallerWagner02 > |cited_by=Author1Author2Author3EtAl10,etc... > |pages=963 > }} > Then, any other WMF wiki, or any other MediaWiki, could cite this universal > entry by simply typing {{cite|KangHsuKrajbichEtAl09}} > Additionally, if a technology such as Semantic MediaWiki is used (as it is > in WikiPapers), arbitrary lists of collections of literature can be > generated by constructing simple queries that are boolean combinations of > template properties. Given that SMW does not scale well, I have a plan that > uses Lucene instead for fast, scalable dynamic generation of collections of > citations. Imagine the possibilities.. > Feel free to provide your feedback on this idea, in addition to your own > ideas, in this thread, or to me personally. I am especially interested in > the potential benefits to the WMF projects that you see, and to hear your > thoughts on the potential of this project on its own, as that will feature > prominently in the proposal. Additionally, what do you think WikiCite would > eventually be like, once it is fully matured? > Brian Mingus > Graduate Student > Computational Cognitive Neuroscience Lab > University of Colorado at Boulder > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.w...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> There have been a number of proposals floated in the Wikimedia >> community over the years to build a wiki-based project for collecting >> journal citation information. For those interested in that topic, you >> might want to check out the University of Prince Edward Island's >> "knowledge for all" project proposal -- it proposes to build an open >> universal citation index (to serve as an alternative to the many >> hundreds of proprietary citation index products that libraries >> currently buy). This of course is not the first attempt at this >> problem, but it's an interesting proposal that's getting a bit of buzz >> in the library community. >> http://library.upei.ca/k4all >> >> -- phoebe >> >> -- >> * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers >> <at> gmail.com * >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3016 - Release Date: 07/19/10 > 19:36:00 > > > -- > Richard Light > > _______________________________________________ > Ol-discuss mailing list > Ol-discuss@archive.org > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > ol-discuss-unsubscr...@archive.org > > -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj _______________________________________________ Ol-discuss mailing list Ol-discuss@archive.org http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to ol-discuss-unsubscr...@archive.org
