Hi Richard, It's good timing that you're bringing this up. Only yesterday, we added a shortcut to a copy-and-paste Wikipedia-formatted citation for editions.
You can see a link at the bottom of our edition pages, alongside the History heading: http://openlibrary.org/books/OL16159927M/Out_of_the_silent_planet It would be really nice, I think, to be able to hit a "Cite this" link that opens up a selection of different types of citations (including Wikipedia) that someone could select from to generate a properly formatted citation. It would also be nice to be able to create a similar citation from within our online BookReader, say, for a specific page or passage. We're also working on some Wikipedia specific templates that help people link from Wikipedia through to Author or Work pages on Open Library, in the case where there are books to read online initially. We're going to trial a bot to write these links to authors en masse too. Here are the templates: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:OL_author - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:OL_work Anyone have suggestions about how we might be able to create the "Cite this" widget? I was wondering if there was a way we could lean on Zotero or some other sort of citation generation program... Cheers, george Richard Light wrote: > > Forwarding as requested ... > > Richard > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > "universal citation index" > From: > Jodi Schneider <[email protected]> > Date: > Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:24:25 +0100 > To: > public-lld <[email protected]>, Code for Libraries > <[email protected]> > > To: > public-lld <[email protected]>, Code for Libraries > <[email protected]> > CC: > Brian Mingus <[email protected]> > > > There've been some interesting discussions on Wiki-research-l about > citations lately, including a post today about using a centralized, > semantic wiki as a repository for all the world's citations, using > infobox-based citation templates, and expressing "cited by" > relationships as backlinks. For LLD, "open metadata repository" is a > nice use case (perhaps bringing indexing and abstracting back in > style!); for Code4Lib, there may be some synergy with past projects, and > note the mention of UPEI's k4all. > > Beyond what's below, if you want to follow the other recent > conversations, see the thread "Fwd: modern foundations of scientific > consensus thread" from June [1] (one late post in July [2] by Daniel > Mietchen) as well as 4 posts yesterday/today. > > -Jodi > http://jodischneider.com/ > > PS-If someone could share with an appropriate OpenLibrary list I'd be > grateful! > > [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2010-June/thread.html > [2] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2010-July/thread.html > <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2010-June/thread.html> > Begin forwarded message: > >> *From: *Brian J Mingus <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Date: *19 July 2010 21:20:15 GMT+01:00 >> *To: *Research into Wikimedia content and communities >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Cc: *Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Subject: **[Wiki-research-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's >> proposal for a "universal citation index"* >> *Reply-To: *Research into Wikimedia content and communities >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> I have been working with Sam and others for some time now on >> brainstorming a proposal for the Foundation to create a centralized >> wiki of citations, a WikiCite so to speak, if that is not the eventual >> name. My plan is to continue to discuss with folks who are >> knowledgeable and interested in such a project and to have the >> feedback I receive go into the proposal which I hope to write this >> summer. The proposal white paper will then be sent around to >> interested parties for corrections and feedback, including on-wiki and >> mailing lists, before eventually landing at the Foundation officially. >> As we know WMF has not started a new project in some years, so there >> is no official process. Thus I find it important to get it right. >> >> The basic idea is a centralized wiki that contains citation >> information that other MediaWikis and WMF projects can then reference >> using something like a {{cite}} template or a simple link. The >> community can document the citation, the author, the book etc.. and, >> in one idealization, all citations across all wikis would point to the >> same article on WikiCite. Users can use this wiki as their personal >> bibliography as well, as collections of citations can be exported in >> arbitrary citation formats. This general plan would allow community >> aggregation of metadata and community documentation of sources along >> arbitrary dimensions (quality, trust, reliability, etc.). The hope is >> that such a resource would then expand on that wiki and across the >> projects into summarizations of collections of sources (lit reviews) >> that make navigating entire fields of literature easier and more >> reliable, getting you out of the trap of not being aware of the global >> context that a particular source sits in. >> >> To give all a more concrete view, here is an example from some >> software that I have implemented in our lab called WikiPapers. Please >> take note that while this is a scientific literature example, the idea >> is general to *all publications ever*. Also, while I have implemented >> a feature-full version of a WikiCite, it's important to point out that >> for the WMF project we will need a new extension that handles the >> needs of the project exactly, and in PHP (I use Python :). >> >> The name of the wiki article is a unique key that is a combination of >> the author names and the year, in the following format: >> Author1Author2Author3EtAl10b. This works for scientific articles, but >> we may find we need to modify the key for other kinds of sources. The >> content of the wiki article is composed of an infobox constructed via >> the Citation template, and any other text and media the community >> determines it is useful and legal to include in the article. Example >> article: >> >> Screenshot of how this infobox renders on our >> wiki: >> http://grey.colorado.edu/mediawiki/sites/mingus/images/0/0e/KangHsuKrajbichEtAl10_infobox.png >> >> Title: KangHsuKrajbichEtAl09 >> >> {{Citation >> |publisher=SAGE Publications >> |dateadded=2010-07-17 >> |author=Kang M.J. and Hsu M. and Krajbich I.M. and Loewenstein G. and >> McClure S.M. and Wang J.T. and Camerer C.F. >> |url=http://pss.sagepub.com/content/20/8/963.full >> |abstract=Curiosity has been described as a desire for learning and >> knowledge, but its underlying mechanisms are not well understood. We >> scanned subjects with functional magnetic resonance imaging while they >> read trivia questions. The level of curiosity when reading questions >> was correlated with activity in caudate regions previously suggested >> to be involved in anticipated reward. This finding led to a behavioral >> study, which showed that subjects spent more scarce resources (either >> limited tokens or waiting time) to find out answers when they were >> more curious. The functional imaging also showed that curiosity >> increased activity in memory areas when subjects guessed incorrectly, >> which suggests that curiosity may enhance memory for surprising new >> information. This prediction about memory enhancement was confirmed in >> a behavioral study: Higher curiosity in an initial session was >> correlated with better recall of surprising answers 1 to 2 weeks later. >> |title=The Wick in the Candle of Learning >> |bibtex type=article >> |number=8 >> |volume=20 >> |owner=Sethherd >> |journal=Psychological Science >> |year=2009 >> |cites=O'ReillyFrank06,Cowan95,Wise04,Fuster80,Panksepp98,KakadeDayan02b,DelgadoLockeStengerEtAl03,BrewerZhaoDesmondEtAl98,DelgadoNystromFiez00,Beatty82,Baddeley92,Waanabe96,Roland93lm,DelgadoNystromFissellEtAl00,WagnerSchacterRotteEtAl98,SeymourDawDayanEtAl07,ODoherty04,BandettiniMoonen99,ODohertyDayanFristonEtAl03,RogersOwenRobbins99,KnutsonWestdorpKaiserEtAl00,CircuitryMemory,OReillyFrank06,Watanabe96a,BrewerZhaoGabrieli98,WagnerSchacterBuckner98,RogersOwenMiddletonEtAl99,Baddeley86,Watanabe96,Rolls96a,PallerWagner02 >> |cited_by=Author1Author2Author3EtAl10,etc... >> |pages=963 >> }} >> >> Then, any other WMF wiki, or any other MediaWiki, could cite this >> universal entry by simply typing {{cite|KangHsuKrajbichEtAl09}} >> >> Additionally, if a technology such as Semantic MediaWiki is used (as >> it is in WikiPapers), arbitrary lists of collections of literature can >> be generated by constructing simple queries that are boolean >> combinations of template properties. Given that SMW does not scale >> well, I have a plan that uses Lucene instead for fast, scalable >> dynamic generation of collections of citations. Imagine the >> possibilities.. >> >> Feel free to provide your feedback on this idea, in addition to your >> own ideas, in this thread, or to me personally. I am especially >> interested in the potential benefits to the WMF projects that you see, >> and to hear your thoughts on the potential of this project on its own, >> as that will feature prominently in the proposal. Additionally, what >> do you think WikiCite would eventually be like, once it is fully matured? >> >> Brian Mingus >> Graduate Student >> Computational Cognitive Neuroscience Lab >> University of Colorado at Boulder >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM, phoebe ayers <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> There have been a number of proposals floated in the Wikimedia >> community over the years to build a wiki-based project for collecting >> journal citation information. For those interested in that topic, you >> might want to check out the University of Prince Edward Island's >> "knowledge for all" project proposal -- it proposes to build an open >> universal citation index (to serve as an alternative to the many >> hundreds of proprietary citation index products that libraries >> currently buy). This of course is not the first attempt at this >> problem, but it's an interesting proposal that's getting a bit of buzz >> in the library community. >> http://library.upei.ca/k4all >> >> -- phoebe >> >> -- >> * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers >> <at> gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> * >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki-research-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3016 - Release Date: 07/19/10 > 19:36:00 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Ol-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > [email protected] _______________________________________________ Ol-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [email protected]
