On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, George Oates <g...@archive.org> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > It's good timing that you're bringing this up. Only yesterday, we added a > shortcut to a copy-and-paste Wikipedia-formatted citation for editions. > > You can see a link at the bottom of our edition pages, alongside the History > heading: > > http://openlibrary.org/books/OL16159927M/Out_of_the_silent_planet > > It would be really nice, I think, to be able to hit a "Cite this" link that > opens up a selection of different types of citations (including Wikipedia) > that > someone could select from to generate a properly formatted citation. > > It would also be nice to be able to create a similar citation from within our > online BookReader, say, for a specific page or passage. > > We're also working on some Wikipedia specific templates that help people link > from Wikipedia through to Author or Work pages on Open Library, in the case > where there are books to read online initially. We're going to trial a bot to > write these links to authors en masse too. > > Here are the templates: > - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:OL_author > - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:OL_work > > Anyone have suggestions about how we might be able to create the "Cite this" > widget? I was wondering if there was a way we could lean on Zotero or some > other > sort of citation generation program...
At a minimum I think you'd want to take advantage of CSL http://xbiblio.sourceforge.net/csl/ (which I think Zotero also uses). Tom > > Cheers, > george > > > > Richard Light wrote: >> >> Forwarding as requested ... >> >> Richard >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Subject: >> "universal citation index" >> From: >> Jodi Schneider <jschnei...@pobox.com> >> Date: >> Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:24:25 +0100 >> To: >> public-lld <public-...@w3.org>, Code for Libraries >> <code4...@listserv.nd.edu> >> >> To: >> public-lld <public-...@w3.org>, Code for Libraries >> <code4...@listserv.nd.edu> >> CC: >> Brian Mingus <brian.min...@colorado.edu> >> >> >> There've been some interesting discussions on Wiki-research-l about >> citations lately, including a post today about using a centralized, >> semantic wiki as a repository for all the world's citations, using >> infobox-based citation templates, and expressing "cited by" >> relationships as backlinks. For LLD, "open metadata repository" is a >> nice use case (perhaps bringing indexing and abstracting back in >> style!); for Code4Lib, there may be some synergy with past projects, and >> note the mention of UPEI's k4all. >> >> Beyond what's below, if you want to follow the other recent >> conversations, see the thread "Fwd: modern foundations of scientific >> consensus thread" from June [1] (one late post in July [2] by Daniel >> Mietchen) as well as 4 posts yesterday/today. >> >> -Jodi >> http://jodischneider.com/ >> >> PS-If someone could share with an appropriate OpenLibrary list I'd be >> grateful! >> >> [1] >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2010-June/thread.html >> [2] >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2010-July/thread.html >> <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2010-June/thread.html> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> *From: *Brian J Mingus <brian.min...@colorado.edu >>> <mailto:brian.min...@colorado.edu>> >>> *Date: *19 July 2010 21:20:15 GMT+01:00 >>> *To: *Research into Wikimedia content and communities >>> <wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> <mailto:wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> *Cc: *Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List >>> <foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> <mailto:foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> *Subject: **[Wiki-research-l] WikiCite - new WMF project? Was: UPEI's >>> proposal for a "universal citation index"* >>> *Reply-To: *Research into Wikimedia content and communities >>> <wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> <mailto:wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org>> >>> >>> I have been working with Sam and others for some time now on >>> brainstorming a proposal for the Foundation to create a centralized >>> wiki of citations, a WikiCite so to speak, if that is not the eventual >>> name. My plan is to continue to discuss with folks who are >>> knowledgeable and interested in such a project and to have the >>> feedback I receive go into the proposal which I hope to write this >>> summer. The proposal white paper will then be sent around to >>> interested parties for corrections and feedback, including on-wiki and >>> mailing lists, before eventually landing at the Foundation officially. >>> As we know WMF has not started a new project in some years, so there >>> is no official process. Thus I find it important to get it right. >>> >>> The basic idea is a centralized wiki that contains citation >>> information that other MediaWikis and WMF projects can then reference >>> using something like a {{cite}} template or a simple link. The >>> community can document the citation, the author, the book etc.. and, >>> in one idealization, all citations across all wikis would point to the >>> same article on WikiCite. Users can use this wiki as their personal >>> bibliography as well, as collections of citations can be exported in >>> arbitrary citation formats. This general plan would allow community >>> aggregation of metadata and community documentation of sources along >>> arbitrary dimensions (quality, trust, reliability, etc.). The hope is >>> that such a resource would then expand on that wiki and across the >>> projects into summarizations of collections of sources (lit reviews) >>> that make navigating entire fields of literature easier and more >>> reliable, getting you out of the trap of not being aware of the global >>> context that a particular source sits in. >>> >>> To give all a more concrete view, here is an example from some >>> software that I have implemented in our lab called WikiPapers. Please >>> take note that while this is a scientific literature example, the idea >>> is general to *all publications ever*. Also, while I have implemented >>> a feature-full version of a WikiCite, it's important to point out that >>> for the WMF project we will need a new extension that handles the >>> needs of the project exactly, and in PHP (I use Python :). >>> >>> The name of the wiki article is a unique key that is a combination of >>> the author names and the year, in the following format: >>> Author1Author2Author3EtAl10b. This works for scientific articles, but >>> we may find we need to modify the key for other kinds of sources. The >>> content of the wiki article is composed of an infobox constructed via >>> the Citation template, and any other text and media the community >>> determines it is useful and legal to include in the article. Example >>> article: >>> >>> Screenshot of how this infobox renders on our >>> wiki: >>> http://grey.colorado.edu/mediawiki/sites/mingus/images/0/0e/KangHsuKrajbichEtAl10_infobox.png >>> >>> Title: KangHsuKrajbichEtAl09 >>> >>> {{Citation >>> |publisher=SAGE Publications >>> |dateadded=2010-07-17 >>> |author=Kang M.J. and Hsu M. and Krajbich I.M. and Loewenstein G. and >>> McClure S.M. and Wang J.T. and Camerer C.F. >>> |url=http://pss.sagepub.com/content/20/8/963.full >>> |abstract=Curiosity has been described as a desire for learning and >>> knowledge, but its underlying mechanisms are not well understood. We >>> scanned subjects with functional magnetic resonance imaging while they >>> read trivia questions. The level of curiosity when reading questions >>> was correlated with activity in caudate regions previously suggested >>> to be involved in anticipated reward. This finding led to a behavioral >>> study, which showed that subjects spent more scarce resources (either >>> limited tokens or waiting time) to find out answers when they were >>> more curious. The functional imaging also showed that curiosity >>> increased activity in memory areas when subjects guessed incorrectly, >>> which suggests that curiosity may enhance memory for surprising new >>> information. This prediction about memory enhancement was confirmed in >>> a behavioral study: Higher curiosity in an initial session was >>> correlated with better recall of surprising answers 1 to 2 weeks later. >>> |title=The Wick in the Candle of Learning >>> |bibtex type=article >>> |number=8 >>> |volume=20 >>> |owner=Sethherd >>> |journal=Psychological Science >>> |year=2009 >>> |cites=O'ReillyFrank06,Cowan95,Wise04,Fuster80,Panksepp98,KakadeDayan02b,DelgadoLockeStengerEtAl03,BrewerZhaoDesmondEtAl98,DelgadoNystromFiez00,Beatty82,Baddeley92,Waanabe96,Roland93lm,DelgadoNystromFissellEtAl00,WagnerSchacterRotteEtAl98,SeymourDawDayanEtAl07,ODoherty04,BandettiniMoonen99,ODohertyDayanFristonEtAl03,RogersOwenRobbins99,KnutsonWestdorpKaiserEtAl00,CircuitryMemory,OReillyFrank06,Watanabe96a,BrewerZhaoGabrieli98,WagnerSchacterBuckner98,RogersOwenMiddletonEtAl99,Baddeley86,Watanabe96,Rolls96a,PallerWagner02 >>> |cited_by=Author1Author2Author3EtAl10,etc... >>> |pages=963 >>> }} >>> >>> Then, any other WMF wiki, or any other MediaWiki, could cite this >>> universal entry by simply typing {{cite|KangHsuKrajbichEtAl09}} >>> >>> Additionally, if a technology such as Semantic MediaWiki is used (as >>> it is in WikiPapers), arbitrary lists of collections of literature can >>> be generated by constructing simple queries that are boolean >>> combinations of template properties. Given that SMW does not scale >>> well, I have a plan that uses Lucene instead for fast, scalable >>> dynamic generation of collections of citations. Imagine the >>> possibilities.. >>> >>> Feel free to provide your feedback on this idea, in addition to your >>> own ideas, in this thread, or to me personally. I am especially >>> interested in the potential benefits to the WMF projects that you see, >>> and to hear your thoughts on the potential of this project on its own, >>> as that will feature prominently in the proposal. Additionally, what >>> do you think WikiCite would eventually be like, once it is fully matured? >>> >>> Brian Mingus >>> Graduate Student >>> Computational Cognitive Neuroscience Lab >>> University of Colorado at Boulder >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.w...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:phoebe.w...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> There have been a number of proposals floated in the Wikimedia >>> community over the years to build a wiki-based project for collecting >>> journal citation information. For those interested in that topic, you >>> might want to check out the University of Prince Edward Island's >>> "knowledge for all" project proposal -- it proposes to build an open >>> universal citation index (to serve as an alternative to the many >>> hundreds of proprietary citation index products that libraries >>> currently buy). This of course is not the first attempt at this >>> problem, but it's an interesting proposal that's getting a bit of buzz >>> in the library community. >>> http://library.upei.ca/k4all >>> >>> -- phoebe >>> >>> -- >>> * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers >>> <at> gmail.com <http://gmail.com/> * >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> <mailto:wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>> wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> <mailto:wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3016 - Release Date: 07/19/10 >> 19:36:00 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-discuss mailing list >> Ol-discuss@archive.org >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> ol-discuss-unsubscr...@archive.org > _______________________________________________ > Ol-discuss mailing list > Ol-discuss@archive.org > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > ol-discuss-unsubscr...@archive.org > _______________________________________________ Ol-discuss mailing list Ol-discuss@archive.org http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to ol-discuss-unsubscr...@archive.org
