Ralf, the Work on OL tries to follow the FRBR definition of Work [1]. So different years, even different translations, are the same work if the text expresses the same content. Of course, making a bright line distinction on Work is difficult, but some aspects of it are not difficult. It is the same Work if the author and title are the same, or, in the case of translations, if the author and original title are the same.
I think of a Work as what we might discuss if you read Thomas Mann in German and I read it in English, but we could talk about "Magic Mountain" and what we thought of it even so. However, a movie made from the book would be a different work (and as we know, movies that are faithful to the text are rare if ever, although they use some of the concepts from the book). It gets more complicated with movies and music, but with books it's easier. kc [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_Requirements_for_Bibliographic_Records On 5/10/12 9:28 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Many thanks for your work. I see now you're considering > works identical iff it's an edition of the same year, ie, > the 1900 and 1904 edition are different works, and much more, > the original (german language) edition and its translation. > Is this correct? > > Short of a manual version of merge, at least it should be > clear when to expect an automagic merge, and I know of no > documentation where I could find this (ah, where is that > bot source, by the way? buried in the OL source presumably) > > Regards, > ralf > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 09:04:21AM -0700, Karen Coyle wrote: >> I dont' think there's a way to merge them manually, but the two >> differences in the editions that could be keeping them apart (and it >> probably takes both of these to do that) are: >> >> title: >> Diseases of the intestines; >> v. >> title: >> Diseases of the intestines; >> subtitle: >> a textbook for practitioners and students of medicine >> >> and >> >> publisher: >> W. Wood and company >> v. >> publisher: >> William Wood, >> >> The publisher counts for less than the title, so adding the subtitle to >> the shorter one may be enough for them to be considered the same work. >> So I'd recommend editing the editions (and I'll not touch them myself so >> we don't interfere with each other), and then wait a day or so (I don't >> know if that's enough) and see if they come together in the work. >> >> kc >> >> >> On 5/9/12 11:47 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> Karen, >>> what triggered the complaint was this import: >>> http://openlibrary.org/works/OL16621408W/Diseases_of_the_intestines?m=history >>> >>> but we had already >>> http://openlibrary.org/works/OL7882426W/Diseases_of_the_intestines >>> >>> I want to merge them manually. Is this possible? >>> >>> Regards, >>> ralf >>> >>> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:00:14AM -0700, Karen Coyle wrote: >>>> Ralf, can you send an example? Publisher name should affect combining >>>> editions but not linking editions to works, so I should look at this. >>>> >>>> kc >>>> >>>> On 5/9/12 9:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>> May I ask if there is some progress in the possibility >>>>> to join editions manually into one work? Even now, new >>>>> works are added with the same author/title/year, where >>>>> just a different form of the publisher's name causes it >>>>> to be occupying a different slot. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> ralf >>>>> >>>>> PS: My condolences for having chosen PHP as a language. >>>>> Maybe it's what makes the trees grow beyond reach? >>>>> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ol-discuss mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >>>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Karen Coyle >>>> [email protected] http://kcoyle.net >>>> ph: 1-510-540-7596 >>>> m: 1-510-435-8234 >>>> skype: kcoylenet >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ol-discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >>>> [email protected] >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Karen Coyle >> [email protected] http://kcoyle.net >> ph: 1-510-540-7596 >> m: 1-510-435-8234 >> skype: kcoylenet > > -- Karen Coyle [email protected] http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet _______________________________________________ Ol-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [email protected]
