Alex, When you are in edit mode, down by the "save" button you see:
"By saving a change to this wiki, you agree that your contribution is given freely to the world under CC0. Yippee!" That covers hand editing, but there probably needs to be a statement on the developer pages about bot edits. kc On 2/26/13 10:10 PM, Alex Stinson wrote: > Alexis, > > Can you at least clarify what user contributions are being contributed > under? When I write something, what am I ceding or agreeing to in the > way of copyright? > > Alex Stinson > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Alexis Rossi <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Tom and Ben, > > The data in Open Library comes from various libraries and other > sources. We don't know whether those other parties have asserted > any rights over that data, or whether they are legally able to do > so. As our Terms of Service states, we ourselves do not assert any > rights over the data in OL, but that doesn't mean that someone else > won't. I understand that you'd like us to put some clarifying > license on the data, but we don't have the information that would > allow us to do that. > > Thanks, > Alexis Rossi > Internet Archive > > On 26-Feb-2013, at 10:16 AM, Tom Morris wrote: > >> Happy Open Data Day! Thanks for bringing this up. I think one of >> the best things that people can do to be "open" is to be explicit >> and transparent about the terms that they license their >> information under and, if they accept & remix content, the terms >> under which they accept data. >> >> One of the key things that Creative Commons licenses were designed >> to address is the friction caused by everyone having to read, >> understand, and approve of lots of different unique licenses. >> Refusing to declare a license and making cloudy statements about >> the provenance of the data is the ultimate in anti-openness. >> >> I eagerly await clarification from the Open Library and/or >> Internet Archive staff. >> >> Tom >> >> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Ben Companjen >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I should have added the most clearly confusing license statement, >> buried at http://openlibrary.org/developers/licensing >> >> "The Internet Archive does not assert any new copyright or other >> proprietary rights over any of the material in the Open Library >> database. There may be existing rights issues on some >> contributions >> and in some jurisdictions. When it comes to community >> projects, the >> legal issues are, frankly, very confusing, but we are >> attempting to >> make a database that can be openly used for a wide variety of >> purposes. We appreciate all that have contributed." >> >> On 23 February 2013 20:40, Ben Companjen >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > On this Open Data Day [0], for some already over, for others >> just >> > starting, to celebrate, promote and use Open Data (with >> "open" as in >> > the Open Definition [1]), I would really like to know: under >> what >> > terms can data from Open Library be used? >> > >> > This question recently surfaced (on the ol-tech list) when >> John Shutt >> > proposed to add first paragraphs from Wikipedia to work >> descriptions. >> > Wikipedia's licence requires attribution (which is easily >> added), but >> > also that the derived work is shared under the same >> conditions. When >> > someone edits a work or book, she agrees to waive all rights by >> > sharing the content of the edit under CC0 [2]. CC0 is >> incompatible >> > with CC-BY and CC-BY-SA, because it requires no attribution and >> > certainly no "share alike". >> > >> > In the discussion, Karen pointed at the Terms and conditions >> of the >> > Internet Archive [3] (that as you know hosts/pays for OL) >> and that >> > they apply to OL content. They state that IA respects others' >> > copyright (and not much more is said). Tom Morris replied >> that makes >> > it really difficult to know what usage rights are granted for OL >> > dumps, web data, API data etc. >> > >> > I believe it is important to show (limitations to) what can >> be done >> > with the OL data and if necessary, clearly state that text with >> > some/all rights restricted (e.g. from Wikipedia) should not be >> > included in OL. >> > >> > Related question: as lots of information was ingested from >> the Library >> > of Congress and other libraries and Amazon, were there >> special or >> > general (non-exclusive) agreements that allowed OL to take >> this data? >> > >> > There may be arguments for "fair use", "facts can't be >> copyrighted", >> > "LC data is in the public domain", but these are partial >> answers at >> > best. >> > >> > Enjoy Open Data Day :) >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Ben >> > >> > [0] http://opendataday.org <http://opendataday.org/> >> > [1] http://opendefinition.org <http://opendefinition.org/> >> > [2] http://creativecommons.org/about/cc0 >> > [3] http://archive.org/about/terms.php >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> > > > _______________________________________________ > Ol-discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ol-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > [email protected] > -- Karen Coyle [email protected] http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet _______________________________________________ Ol-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [email protected]
