Hi,

It looks like yesterday's issues with the lending titles are not related to 
GeoIP. When archive.org went down yesterday, the OL servers were not able to 
access IA item metadata for the lending library books. When this happens, OL is 
not able to loan a book.

The last couple errors GeoIP I checked turned out to not actually be GeoIP 
lookup errors, but other system errors.. Currently, to do geographic lookup OL 
uses a static database copied onto our servers that rarely changes and is 
updated by hand. Intermittent errors sometimes cause the loan system to stop 
working, but the geoip lookup appears to be consistently working during these 
times.

One example of this is the IP address Jessamyn got assigned that stopped 
working for a while. That issue was actually unrelated to the geoip lookup.

Also, I manually updated our geoip db last week, so maybe the results will be 
more accurate now.

Hopefully the loan system becomes more stable soon. I know Anand is working on 
adding features to it :)

-raj


On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:10 AM, "jessamyn c. west" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The way I understand it is that there's very little collection
> geolimiting that is on a state by state basis since we have all the
> states in the US participating. The problem is when people are in a
> state and Open Library doesn't seem to recognize them as being in the
> US at all (you can tell this is happening because they don't see a
> state-based banner at the top when they log in, it happened to me
> once). I may have the basic setup wrong but I am hoping someone who
> knows exactly how OL is doing this could suggest a method to repair
> it.
> 
> ________
> Jessamyn
> 
> librarian.net ::: jessamyn.com ::: jessamyn.info ::: box 345, randolph vt 
> 05060
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Tom Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:00 PM, jessamyn c. west <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In looking over the past 30-50 emails, we've had 6-8 reports of people
>>> who have been using Open Library just fine and then suddenly can't see
>>> any of the lending library books anymore and only see DAISY titles.
>>> 
>>> I have been forwarding all these emails to Anand when they are
>>> reporting a geographical location and an IP address. I'm aware this
>>> may not be an OL issue (i.e. that ISPs are issuing IP addresses that
>>> don't resolve properly in some way) but I'm wondering if we can make
>>> this process smoother for people. This happened to me a few weeks ago
>>> and I was able to fix it by restarting my modem and getting a new IP
>>> but not everyone can do this. Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Doing a geo lookup on the IP address is a nice convenience, but it seems
>> like there should be a way to override it and allow the user to specify
>> which geography they want lendable books for.  There are, for example, lots
>> of people who live in New Hampshire, but commute to Massachusetts for work.
>> They might want to do lookups at home for books that they want to borrow
>> when in Boston.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
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