2015-01-12 9:11 GMT+01:00 Per Øyvind Karlsen <[email protected]>:
> I think it's quite important to have a more recent, less dull and some new > stuff in a distro release if we're gonna give away usb sticks this year. > > I have two things of work on technical stuff in preparation of FOSDEM, the > first being finalizing the image creating process etc. for the Moondrake > (yes, not OMV) Wandboard media center, and also isos using the classical > installer, incorporating all of bug updates, additonal fixes, while all > work I've done on drakx* tools, urpmi/perl-URPM over the last year, and > this will be released as Moondrake GNU/Linux also rather than OMV. > Considering Raphaël has offered for the association to officially support > the project/distro, > Wow, that was a disussion we had a loong time ago, I almost forgetted :) About officially "support' I first thought about helping with infra as we had enough power for an additional server at this time, with the current situation, it may be much more harder, depending on your needs. Of course, it was first a private suggestion, that should have been discussed after inside association, I can't take such decision by myself alone, it's not my infra :) About Moondrake and OMA, that is something different: I don't know what is the relation with OMLx now, but three cases can be considered: * It's working in collaboration with current projects of OMA or similar, considering the work you have done on moondrake, I think it may be interesting * It's not working with current projects of OMA, but considered as a separate project (for any reason that may be good, such as an incompatible way of managing the project), and wants to be considered as another project of OMA, it may be also interesting, and still OK with the association purpose, but maybe harder to manage and explain publicly. * Both of the two above for any of case, I can speak in my own name, and suggest things (for my part I suggest improving collaboration between the two projects as you are obviously efficient, workaholic and high skilled on specific topics we may need - as our current dev/contrib also are -, but on the other side you are apparently very independant), but yet I can't take such decision by my own, just suggest and submit. > I antiicipate that people won't be too upset about what I'll prepare in > time for FOSDEM, for which thanks to Raphaël's personally sposoring my trip > out of his own pocket > Wow, what an official word for a quick and dirty private proposal :) Well, it's not that I "sponsor" (I don't necessarily want my name to be cited for it, and don't do it in the name of OMA), it's that I was in the situation I could help thanks to a little amount of money I kept and dedicated to OMA for 2015. And as it was also suggested to me: it's also maybe better to help a developer to come rather than to come myself. So, as you said you would reimburse later and as I trust you, I can lend you this money for FOSDEM. Furthermore, this year it's difficult for me to go there, for family reasons. And as the next events in France are close to Paris (Solutions Linux and LSM) then I would not need lot of money for attending them. More precisely, I kept 200€ for OMA. But if it may help improving collaboration and quality of OMA projects, I'd certainly be happy. I suddenly had a doubt about the related discussion, as it was quite sporadic, and with phone :p So yes, here is the content just in case we understood something different, you said "2-300€" so 200€ I just could, not the whole travel :D (the bank would not allow me in any case). The copy-paste of the discussion P- if the association would be able to sponsor/loan/whatever me €2-300 for the trip, I'll be able to attend, so please consider what can be done while I'm on my way home or something cya R- I can try to pay with my own money P- well, if you can afford it... if so R- not really but i don't see solutions for now P- I will pay you back when able to R- and i trust you P- good to hear at least trust is rather important R- yep > (if anyone else would feel as generous and find my attendane valuable > enough, both myself and Raphaël would appreciate this btw., but i won't go > on begging much more beyond that, beyond expressing my gratitude and > greatfulness towards Raphaël and his will to aid me9 I seem to be attending > this year after all, and as i expect that we'll have some usb sticks this > year as well to hand out, i would think if would be good to have both omv & > mdk usb sticks to distribute, especially since the latter is more updated > and with new functionality, features and far more recent versions of our > own in-house developed tools, for which i'll be more than willing to tell > and answer questions about. > > For this release, i would as i said above, merge all the stuff (all my > work done privately since may 2013, so it'll be quite an update and more > recent to what's been in the omv releases which has been shipping neglibly > improved/developed over that period) that i'm in the process of merging > back to cooker. > i will also try find the time to finish integrate some of the features > I've discussed here, that's yet only resides in my source repos, while > awaiting final preparations for being included. > > Blackcrack, would this satisfy what you'd like to see in this release? > For the background you mentioned by Arvi, I'm not sure which you refer to, > Arvi was very fond of the existing one in Moondrake, and didn't think of > there being a need for changing it at all, so I'm not sure if you refer to > some other background or not. > But I will most certainly still continue to include his tuxlets theme > avatars, which I think of as a nice way to honour him, but including names > of deceased in the release code name, is something i'm principally is > against of and something that can easily be found in more or less poor > taste by some, I'd rather place some dedication somewhere else... > > If these plans for preparing a release in time for FOSDEM sounds > satisfactory to people, and noone will object to distributing it together > with OMV usb keys at the stand, I will start work on preparing this. > > Any comments? Suggestions? :) > Well, my suggestion would be your previous suggestion, you told you wanted to come to Fosdem to make proposals and engage discussions (new ideas of way to find treasury, focusing on some projects that may be more sellable etc.). As the motivation of developers and contributors are one of my main concerns, I'd suggest to take time for discussions with other developers/contributors and see if you are on the same line. If you can come with something that fits both current OMA dev/contrib, and you, then certainly this "something" can be submitted to the members of the association :) About coming as is and distributing usb sticks at the booth named "OpenMandriva" with a distro which is not under the umbrella of OpenMandriva while nothing is yet clear for contrib/dev of OM Lx projects, neither to OMA members, and officially decided by them, about the relation that exists between OMA and Moondrake, it would certainly confuse not only booth keepers but also people visiting our booth. Certainly there are solutions, but discussions first, agreement then. It's my vision, not to be shared by everyone :) > > 2015-01-10 8:11 GMT+01:00 Blackcrack <[email protected]>: > >> Hi Raphaël, >> >> well, if you whant have an CD/DVD who works really well for us, >> look that the ISO 2014.2 is ready before the start FOSDEM, >> because an really well working System it's better as an ALFA who be only >> say..: >> "whoo the 2015 becomes good, really good ! here it is the ALFA" >> *dump looking* >> >> humm, hole words can i make also, but.. so but if you have an ISO /DVD >> with us Distro in the hand from last year, where works really, can you >> say, >> this is from last Year vinified (like a good wine), but this, this year >> becomes better ! >> This is a statement that is almost impossible to beat, because the finsh >> iso it's >> an reality and the Community grown up it is also an reality.. >> and this statement is much better, than to say.. >> "this crappy alpha thing is well, but it's comes more better/ (crappy??)" >> you see.. so, >> it's much better to have an really well stone in the hand as an Bird on >> the roof ;) >> because, with the stone can you hunting .. with the Bird on the roof not >> .. ;) >> >> best regards >> Blacky >> >> >> Am 09.01.2015 um 22:29 schrieb Raphaël Jadot: >> >> I think it's a good idea also, but it would certainly be best if the >> optimisations are pushed at the same time on 2015 so that there is no a >> bigger gap between the two major versions, no? >> >> 2015-01-09 11:59 GMT+01:00 Per Øyvind Karlsen <[email protected]>: >> >>> 2015-01-08 8:48 GMT+01:00 Blackcrack <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Hi Peoples, >>>> >>>> the 2014 it is now inclusive the i586 an well running system >>>> in this point . >>>> It's not an well idea/suggestion if we now make with 2014.2 >>>> as an System who it is running well so far and bug fixed so far. >>>> Urpmi it is on both systems well running now, and the pictures >>>> want be well working via libpng16 like i has view .. >>>> Maybe updating the the rest of the library what's not up to date >>>> and should work really well so far .. >>>> >>>> So, why not then creating an2014.2 iso as as finalization >>>> before we create an 2015 . For have something who can we tell, >>>> "take this CD/DVD/ISO and be happy, because he can be really >>>> happy because it works easy well so far" .. and.. >>>> the Surface it is up to date so far .. so what whant we more.. >>>> if we now creating an finalization ISO for have an clean install >>>> and an Clean configuring do we hve an ISO where can say, yes, >>>> it's the best of 2014 .. the 2014.2 iso . >>>> >>> It's not a bad idea, I would've generated some (compatible) moondrake >>> isos satisfying this request, but unfortunately I doubt that I'll have the >>> time.. >>> >>> But then again, since your desired requirements for such a release is >>> rather modest, there's a fair chance that I might just push a Moondrake >>> GNU/Linux 2014 1/2 based on top of OMV 2014.1... >>> >>> No promises, but considering that what you ask for in such a release >>> wouldn't require much work (if I understood it right), I *might* satisfy >>> your request. :) >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Per Øyvind >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OM-Cooker mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OM-Cooker mailing >> [email protected]http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OM-Cooker mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > OM-Cooker mailing list > [email protected] > http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org >
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