Dear Per Oyvind,

I must admit that I do not have such technical skills as you have but I feel that we have a certain brand with "OpenMandriva" and I am not sure if this "Retro-Mandrake" is going to work. I doubt it.

Furthermore could you elaborate on things outside of Cooker such as manuals, Wiki etc. please?

I know there is lots of room for improvement but I am quite reluctanct of changing the banner once again. We would have to change design, website, update manuals etc. and I prefer staying under the OpenMandriva banner as having something new. We do have a brand, which might not be the most powerful but we do have one that I would like to stick to.

With Mandriva SA filing bankruptcy I lost a reference of my translation work on the web. I did the German version of their site and localised a lot of their Pulse, MDS etc. products - something that I could use as a reference to attract new potential customers. I don't want to lose these work I put into OpenMandriva as well.

For me Cooker is a community itself which has a long lasting heritage that contributors can be proud of. What I would like to point out is that there are other non-technical aspects and we do need to work together.

I also admit that I am also concerned about the financial state of the Association as the Crowdfunding campaign hasn't been that successful.

Regards,


Maik


Am 23.07.2015 um 11:59 schrieb Guilherme Moro:
Can we at least get a proper official response from the OMA foundation?
I fully support Per in his claims, and is obvious that just trying to "hide" from the situation and postponing serious conversation is hurting everyone. The project keeps going in no direction for years, while me and so many others decided to stop helping from the lack of trust on the council capacity to deal with problems and act like the real intermediate representative for such discussions to happen, instead what we have now is a Foundation with no plans, no strategic view, controlled by who knows who (we actually know, but let's skip finger pointing for now), that have absolutely no transparency. Blocking Per on the lists is just a clear act of non-transparency, to not say despotism, and personal bias from the ones that have the control. So again, I reiterate, who is the representative of the Foundation that can come up here and have a proper discussion about the points raised?

Regards,

Guilherme Moro

On 23 July 2015 at 08:03, Giuseppe Ghibò <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 22/07/2015 15:26, Marja van Waes wrote:
    > If so, I'll be renaming moondrake to mandrake, while still keep
    signing
    > with the authentic Mandrake key in my releases and repos,,,
    >
    > Well, I hope at least that I spark a discussion and brought up the
    > severity of the situation for people to fully understand in what
    > distress this project actually and also pave the ground for
    people to
    > discuss problems with project and what their unhappy with, Many
    people
    > are loosing interest and stopping to contribute...
    >
    > Thanks for your attempt to get things moving. I hope your mail will
    > result in a strong revival of the project.
    >
    > Good luck all,
    > Marja
    >
    > ________________

    I read in other MLs that Per Øyvind was banned from from this mailing
    list, so he can't write here anymore. Since he was historical
    contributor,
    can someone refer about this situation, or maybe it's just a technical
    problem and he gone off-list just because of some technical issue
    (e.g.
    mail bouncing exceed, etc.).

    Thanks.
    Giuseppe.

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