Stephen,
I understand this interpretation but then the table does not seem consistent: "The moving TSC member cannot continue as a TSC member IF the total number of TSC member exceeds the agreed number". In what situation would the total number not be exceeded? And if the TSC member continues in this unusual case, then he/she isn't stepping down, which means that the operator can't fill their seat. Regards, Jason Hunt Distinguished Engineer, IBM Phone: 314-749-7422 Email: djh...@us.ibm.com Twitter: @DJHunt From: "Alla Goldner" <alla.gold...@amdocs.com> To: "onap-tsc@lists.onap.org" <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> Date: 10/18/2018 03:07 AM Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a vacancey" Sent by: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org Hi, I think this caser is covered by the proposed text. Best regards, Alla Goldner Open Network Division Amdocs Technology From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Terrill Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:00 AM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a vacancey" Thanks Jason, Thanks for the comment. I thought that the proposed text (given the principles) covered the case, maybe you see something that I miss: The proposed amendment indicates “That TSC member may remain a member unless: 1) the moves places the member in conflict with the TSC composition rules” and that the current composition rules state: - Size and structure o The TSC shall consist of eighteen (18) seats o Nine seats are reserved for operators Please note operators is defined as a specific set of companies Meaning that such a move would violate the current composition rules -> hence the moving TSC member would be considered to have stood down. Is there a way to make it clearer (I hesitate to draw out a specific list of scenarios in the text as that is when I thought we may miss a case)? BR, Steve From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> On Behalf Of Jason Hunt Sent: Wednesday 17 October 2018 23:08 To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a vacancey" One case that wasn't in Chaker's list, but might trigger some discussion would be: An elected TSC member representing Operator A takes a job with a Vendor A that does not have a representative on the TSC. As written, the charter proposal says that the TSC member keeps his/her seat and Operator A would be without a representative on the TSC (until the next election cycle). However, the table in the top of the document states otherwise (Operator A can appoint a new member and the TSC member might keep their seat if the TSC numbers are not exceeded). We need to sync up the charter language with the table, if the table is what we intend. Regards, Jason Hunt Distinguished Engineer, IBM Phone: 314-749-7422 Email: djh...@us.ibm.com Twitter: @DJHunt From: "Chaker Al Hakim" <chaker.al.ha...@huawei.com> To: "onap-tsc@lists.onap.org" <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> Date: 10/17/2018 03:29 PM Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a vacancey" Sent by: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org Hi Steve, Thanks for the clarifications Regards, Chaker From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Terrill Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:59 PM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a vacancey" Hi Chaker, Discussion is always welcome – I wanted to point out though that I believe that the cases you proposed are covered in the proposal, which I will clarify below: 1. If an elected TSC member from an Operator A changes jobs and moves to Operator B that’s already represented on the TSC board a. Would the ‘TSC Member’ be forced to resign based on the TSC rules or Operator(s) make the decision?) b. Would the TSC run a new election? c. Who would be eligible to run? Steve: I believe this is covered. This would violate the TSC composition rules, hence the moving TSC member would stepdown or be considered as such. 2. An elected TSC member representing Operator A takes a job with a Vendor A that is already represented with an elected TSC member a. Would the ‘TSC Member’ be forced to resign based on the TSC rules or Operator/vendor make the decision? b. Would the TSC run a new election? c. Who would be eligible to run in the new election? Steve: I believe this is covered. This would violate the TSC composition rules, hence the moving TSC member would stepdown or be considered as such. 3. If an elected TSC member from Vendor A takes a job with vendor B which had failed to win a TSC seat during the official TSC election (this is an interesting case) a. Would the ‘TSC Member’ be forced to resign based on the TSC rules or Operator and/or vendor make the decision?) b. Who would be eligible to run in the new election? c. Eligibility Steve: I believe this is covered. According to this proposal, the TSC member is not forced to resign as the TSC composition rules are not violated. Of course its another thing if there is disagreement for the basis of the proposal. BR, Steve From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> On Behalf Of Chaker Al Hakim Sent: Wednesday 17 October 2018 20:27 To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a vacancey" Hi all, I had sent the attached email back in September proposing a few more cases to consider so that we don’t have to work the same exercise again when/if they do occur. I’d like to include them in the discussion tomorrow and decide as a team on how we move forward. Thanks, Chaker From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org[mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Terrill Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 4:15 AM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org Subject: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a vacancey" Hi, As TSC-1 jira is on the TSC agenda, a proposal has been uploaded. While this and previous versions have been shared with the Task force, there is still ongoing discussion however I thought that it fair to share the latest proposal with the TSC members before the meeting this week. It is attatched in the jira: https://jira.onap.org/browse/TSC-1?src=confmacro BR, Steve Stephen Terrill Senior Expert, Automation and Management TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST BDGS RDP Architecture & Technology Phone: +34913393005 Mobile: +34609168515 stephen.terr...@ericsson.com Ericsson C/ Via de los Poblados 13. 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