[Winona Online Democracy]
Janet, I have to agree with you. Rochester, however, has no such problem
with DOT. They simply get in there early with as much political clout as
needed. Shopko alone, though having good intentions, could get nowhere
unless all of Winona got behind its idea and tried solving the problem
early. It can't be done after the project is built. The City has leverage
before the project is approved. The City approves the project and discovers
the problem later.
Duane M. Peterson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet DeClute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] traffic problems near shopping complexes
> [Winona Online Democracy]
>
> While I agree that better planning is needed, I find I must disagree that
> the blame for Winona's traffic woes should be laid at retail developers'
> feet. Often the problem lands squarely in the lap of the state. I
distinctly
> remember the discussion a few years back pertaining to the Hwy. 14 & 61
> intersection. Every suggestion that Shopko made to alleviate the traffic
> problems was shot down by the Minnesota DOT. Their whole purpose was to
keep
> traffic moving through the Winona corridor, not to alleviate the traffic
> problems. One suggestion that was offered by Shopko was to have access
from
> Hwy. 61 (I believe at the 43rd? Ave. lights with a Service Drive) but that
> is state property and the DOT didn't feel this was a good use of the land.
>
> I drive this area regularly and it is a nightmare, as are other areas of
the
> city. However, to blame only the developers is not accurate. Everyone
> involved, from the developers to the city to the DOT are at fault. As are
> the people (myself included) who don't attend the public hearings to
express
> their opinions and concerns.
>
>
> --
> Janet DeClute
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>
> > From: "Duane Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:14:19 -0500
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [Winona] traffic problems near shopping complexes
> >
> > [Winona Online Democracy]
> >
> > Our problem in being saddled with additional traffic problems is that
there
> > was insufficient awareness of the coming traffic problems when the
developer
> > was allowed to get the required permits. There should be a requirement
that
> > increased traffic costs should be (at least partially) charged to the
> > developer. The time to assess those costs is when the development is in
the
> > planning stage. Now we have Target in place and the traffic problems
are
> > left to the citizens to solve. The same is true of Fleet Farm etc. The
> > worst is the Shopko etc development. Huge commercial complexes are
allowed
> > to be built without charging anything for the traffic problems that are
sure
> > to follow. Better planning is needed.
> > Duane M. Peterson
> >
> > Duane M. Peterson
> >
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