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As a none smoker now for over twenty years but one who started smoking when
I was eleven I agree in part with Gene.  Anyone who for the last forty
years hasn't known that smoking was bad for their health must have been on
a island in the middle of nowhere.   People would have needed to be brain
dead including kids to not know that smoking is bad for them.but "they"
have decided to try to beat the odds.   I agee with Gene that beating up on
tobacco companies is getting old. 

As a consumer we all have choices and if not patronizing a restaurant that
allows smoking or to stop subscribing to newspapers that print any ad that
is offensive causes them to lose revenue or puts them out of business
that's the way to solve the problem.  By the same token if a restaurant
wants to serve only smokers and posts that on the doors so that anyone
wanting a job or wanting to patronize that restaurant that should be their
call.   

Part of democracy is choice even though sometimes the choices "people" make
are dumb.

Paul Double
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>Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:40:23 GMT

>Gene,
>
>I completely disagree, big tobacco has beat up on us way more than we've 
>beat up on them. They've lied to the public for over 60 years and they are 
>still lying. I do not believe that a child asking someone to not smoke 
>around them is rude.  I do believe someone smoking around me or my child is 
>not only rude, but a health hazard. I also disagree with your McDonalds 
>correlation.  I have never heard of McD's adding poisonous chemicals to 
>their happy meals to addict children into eating 20 or more of them a day.  
>You can sit next to me and eat all the happy meals you want and it doesn't 
>affect me a bit.  But light up a cigarette and the entire restaurant is 
>breathing in hundreds of poisons including carbon monoxide, acetone, and 
>arsenic.  See the difference?
>
>Cherisa Templeton

>>Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:50:52 -0500

>>Oh, I think we've all beat up on big tobacco enough for awhile.  The kids 
>>in this day and age have anti-smoking indoctrination at school, even to the
>>point of ocassionally being rude to people they see smoking in public.  I
>>would be more concerned if the Daily News printed ads for that resturant
>>chain that uses a clown to sell heart disease to our kids in something
>>called a 'Happy Meal'.
>>
>>By the way, since TV and newspapers started featuring stories about oral 
>>sex in the Oval Office a few years ago, I've been very careful about my kids
>>exposure to the media in general.
>>
>>Gene Thiele

>>Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 8:17 PM
>>Subject: [Winona] Phillip Morris ad on the sports page?
>> > Excuse the change of topic:
>> >
>> > Wow.  Full page cigarette ad on the back of the sports section of the
>>Daily News.   Freedom of speech and all, I suppose.  My 7-year old
noticed it too, and  asked some  pretty good questions about it.  I guess a
big billboard ad like that draws attention from  children as well as
adults.  Very Effective.
>> >
>> > I heard that ABC News online was running stories about the dangers of
>> > smoking, and ran a banner ad for tobacco at the same time.  A consumer
group noticed the paradox and mentioned it to ABC, who promptly took all of
their cigarette ads off their web site.
>> > Did anyone else hear about this?  Does it bother anyone else to have an
>> > invitation to lung cancer next to your crossword puzzle?
>> >
>> > -Clayton Templeton
>> >
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