[Winona Online Democracy]
John Lennon's killer was carrying a copy of CATCHER IN THE RYE.
>From: "Larry Strange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Winona] New Subject-Adult store...
>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:34:45 -0600
>
>[Winona Online Democracy]
>
>In regards to Mr. Westpfahl's 2nd point:
>
>2.) I am still a little curious about all this secondary affect stuff.
>How many crimes have been proven to be caused by the book store??????????
>Ok, How many crimes have been attributed to the affects of Alcohol?
>Drunk Driving...physical and domestic abuse....other things.....
>
>One case that comes to mind concerning the secondary affect's of
>pornography
>is Ted Bundy.
>
>Grant it he did not purchase pornography in Winona however,
>I don't think that really makes any differance. He did admit that though
>that pornography was the major influence as to why he murdered so
>many innocent woman.
>
>L. Strange
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark J. Westpfahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 5:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [Winona] New Subject-Adult store...
>
>
> > [Winona Online Democracy]
> >
> >
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> > I agree ...to an extent.
> > The citizens of Winona have the right to determine what they find to be
> > appropriate or inappropriate. If they happen to form a committee or
>group,
> > that is wonderful. If they are willing to attend meetings, and make sure
> > that their voice is hear, I am all for that. They are doing more to make
> > sure it stops, than the people who are for the book store(s)
> > or at least more than the people that really don't care about the issue.
> > They are doing something I am for...speaking their minds, and voicing
>their
> > concerns.
> > They are doing it the right way, and they are taking it to the who will
> > listen the most, and have the athority to do something...the city
>council.
> > However, I do not agree that every Winonan is for stopping
>"pornograghy."
> > They have just as much right to do the same, unfortunately they are not
> > doing it on such a grand scale as orginizations such as STOP.
> >
> > I Only have two other comments----
> >
> > 1.) City Council better be willing to have a darn good justification for
> > spending Winonans tax dollars when the city goes to court, and if all
>other
> > recent Minnesota cases prove themselves again, and the city will lose.
> > I do believe we could be investing our money a little more wisely.
> >
> > 2.) I am still a little curious about all this secondary affect stuff.
> > How many crimes have been proven to be caused by the book
>store??????????
> > Ok, How many crimes have been attributed to the affects of Alcohol?
> > Drunk Driving...physical and domestic abuse....other things.....
> >
> > AGAIN< I AM NOT SAYING I AM FOR OR AGAINST THE BUSINESSES....I do
>realize
> > that it is much easier to record such behavior when measuring alcohol,
>but
>I
> > have seen no evidence YET about any such affects, even from our own
>Police
> > Chief.
> > So, If anybody is willing to give me more facts on any of these points,
>It
> > would benifit me to making a better decision, and hopefully it can
>educate
> > others also.
> > Thanks
> > Mark J. Westpfahl
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: [Winona] New Subject
> > >Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:26:46 EST
> > >
> > >[Winona Online Democracy]
> > >
> > >After viewing some of last Monday's City Council meeting regarding the
> > >so-called
> > >adult book store here in Winona i am more convinced than ever that this
>is
> > >NOT
> > >about pornography, it's alleged secondary effects or even about a
>specific
> > >book and
> > >video store.
> > >What it is about in my opinion is power. A small group of people (STOP
>and
> > >their
> > >supporters) trying to impose their idea of what is right and wrong on
>the
> > >rest of the
> > >community. They want to decide for the rest of
> > >us what books to read, videos to watch, etc. And they are trying to use
>the
> > >City
> > >Council as a conduit for there power trip.
> > >If they are successful in closing or severely restricting this store, i
> > >fear
> > >that they will
> > >not be satisfied with that. Already there has been
> > >some implication from that group that they have other targets, e.g.
> > >television
> > >programs, that they want to censor next.
> > >So the question for the City Council and for all of us in Winona is,
>are
>we
> > >going to let
> > >them impose their view on what is right and wrong on others, or will we
> > >insist that the
> > >City Council do the right thing and support the Constitutionally
>protected
> > >the right of
> > >the store to exist. And in the process safe-guard for all Winonans the
> > >right
> > >to chose
> > >for themselves what form of entertainment is right for them to enjoy
>within
> > >the
> > >sanctity of their private lives.
> > >
> > >Dean Lanz
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