[Winona Online Democracy]
Shall we even get into the horrors committed by people who believed that
their respective sacred texts (Bible, Koran, Baghavad Gita, etc.)
instructed them to do so?
>From: Jeff Dankert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [Winona] New Subject-Adult store...
>Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:50:18 -0600
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>[Winona Online Democracy]
>
>We need to examine real vs. favored/perceived evils in our city. Favored
>evils often don't provide the hard data as evils, but are treated as such:
>these could include crack cocaine and pornography. Real ones might be
>apathy, intolerance and booze.
>
>Jeff Dankert
>Winona Daily News
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of andrew
>thompson
>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 2:38 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [Winona] New Subject-Adult store...
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>[Winona Online Democracy]
>
>John Lennon's killer was carrying a copy of CATCHER IN THE RYE.
>
>
> >From: "Larry Strange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [Winona] New Subject-Adult store...
> >Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:34:45 -0600
> >
> >[Winona Online Democracy]
> >
> >In regards to Mr. Westpfahl's 2nd point:
> >
> >2.) I am still a little curious about all this secondary affect stuff.
> >How many crimes have been proven to be caused by the book store??????????
> >Ok, How many crimes have been attributed to the affects of Alcohol?
> >Drunk Driving...physical and domestic abuse....other things.....
> >
> >One case that comes to mind concerning the secondary affect's of
> >pornography
> >is Ted Bundy.
> >
> >Grant it he did not purchase pornography in Winona however,
> >I don't think that really makes any differance. He did admit that though
> >that pornography was the major influence as to why he murdered so
> >many innocent woman.
> >
> >L. Strange
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mark J. Westpfahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 5:50 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Winona] New Subject-Adult store...
> >
> >
> > > [Winona Online Democracy]
> > >
> > >
> >*************************************************************************
> > > I agree ...to an extent.
> > > The citizens of Winona have the right to determine what they find to
>be
> > > appropriate or inappropriate. If they happen to form a committee or
> >group,
> > > that is wonderful. If they are willing to attend meetings, and make
>sure
> > > that their voice is hear, I am all for that. They are doing more to
>make
> > > sure it stops, than the people who are for the book store(s)
> > > or at least more than the people that really don't care about the
>issue.
> > > They are doing something I am for...speaking their minds, and voicing
> >their
> > > concerns.
> > > They are doing it the right way, and they are taking it to the who
>will
> > > listen the most, and have the athority to do something...the city
> >council.
> > > However, I do not agree that every Winonan is for stopping
> >"pornograghy."
> > > They have just as much right to do the same, unfortunately they are
>not
> > > doing it on such a grand scale as orginizations such as STOP.
> > >
> > > I Only have two other comments----
> > >
> > > 1.) City Council better be willing to have a darn good justification
>for
> > > spending Winonans tax dollars when the city goes to court, and if all
> >other
> > > recent Minnesota cases prove themselves again, and the city will lose.
> > > I do believe we could be investing our money a little more wisely.
> > >
> > > 2.) I am still a little curious about all this secondary affect stuff.
> > > How many crimes have been proven to be caused by the book
> >store??????????
> > > Ok, How many crimes have been attributed to the affects of Alcohol?
> > > Drunk Driving...physical and domestic abuse....other things.....
> > >
> > > AGAIN< I AM NOT SAYING I AM FOR OR AGAINST THE BUSINESSES....I do
> >realize
> > > that it is much easier to record such behavior when measuring alcohol,
> >but
> >I
> > > have seen no evidence YET about any such affects, even from our own
> >Police
> > > Chief.
> > > So, If anybody is willing to give me more facts on any of these
>points,
> >It
> > > would benifit me to making a better decision, and hopefully it can
> >educate
> > > others also.
> > > Thanks
> > > Mark J. Westpfahl
> > >
> >*************************************************************************
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: [Winona] New Subject
> > > >Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:26:46 EST
> > > >
> > > >[Winona Online Democracy]
> > > >
> > > >After viewing some of last Monday's City Council meeting regarding
>the
> > > >so-called
> > > >adult book store here in Winona i am more convinced than ever that
>this
> >is
> > > >NOT
> > > >about pornography, it's alleged secondary effects or even about a
> >specific
> > > >book and
> > > >video store.
> > > >What it is about in my opinion is power. A small group of people
>(STOP
> >and
> > > >their
> > > >supporters) trying to impose their idea of what is right and wrong on
> >the
> > > >rest of the
> > > >community. They want to decide for the rest of
> > > >us what books to read, videos to watch, etc. And they are trying to
>use
> >the
> > > >City
> > > >Council as a conduit for there power trip.
> > > >If they are successful in closing or severely restricting this store,
>i
> > > >fear
> > > >that they will
> > > >not be satisfied with that. Already there has been
> > > >some implication from that group that they have other targets, e.g.
> > > >television
> > > >programs, that they want to censor next.
> > > >So the question for the City Council and for all of us in Winona is,
> >are
> >we
> > > >going to let
> > > >them impose their view on what is right and wrong on others, or will
>we
> > > >insist that the
> > > >City Council do the right thing and support the Constitutionally
> >protected
> > > >the right of
> > > >the store to exist. And in the process safe-guard for all Winonans
>the
> > > >right
> > > >to chose
> > > >for themselves what form of entertainment is right for them to enjoy
> >within
> > > >the
> > > >sanctity of their private lives.
> > > >
> > > >Dean Lanz
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