On 09/07/11 13:24, Peter Junge wrote:
On 09.07.2011 20:02, David McKay wrote:
My preference has nothing to do with blogs, it is purely a naming and
branding issue. Formally, OpenOffice.org was always written as
OpenOffice.org by those who knew, but colloquially/informally it was
always talked about as OpenOffice. I agree we need to maintain ties with
the legacy and history of OpenOffice.org, but the removal of the .org
isn't going to jeopardise that.

This was always a trademark issue, just two quick examples:
Siemens has a trademarked product called HiPath OpenOffice [1], there's also a IT service provider in the Netherlands who has registered Open Office [2] and AFAIK there are many more to consider in other countries. We had exactly the same discussion a million times, which came always to the conclusion we *must* use OpenOffice.org. Please spare us the one million and first deja vu.
Point taken. But at the same time, being new here, this is my first, not my million and first :)
Over the year we got used to it. The community that has landed on Apache's shores is the OpenOffice.org community.
Understood.

As to the differentiation of OpenOffice.org and Apache OpenOffice.org, I would propose to use the latter for the project and the community now, but keeping the former for the branding of the product.
I can't help wondering though if HiPath OpenOffice is not a problem for Siemens (and presumably other trademark holders)
why Apache openOffice would be/cause a problem for us.

But no one needs answer that - I'm done.

Best regards,
Peter

[1] http://wiki.siemens-enterprise.com/wiki/HiPath_OpenOffice_ME
[2] http://www.openoffice.nl/merkenregistratie


Dave.

On 09/07/11 12:55, Javier Sola wrote:
Why does the name need to be changed? Is there any value in adding
"Apache" to the name?

I really think that the name is one of the most important assets of
the project at this time.

We have spent quite a lot of effort in the last few years promoting
the OpenOffice (or OpenOffice,org) name, to the point that it is part
of the approved IT policies of some countries.

I have worked to get OpenOffice into the textbooks of two countries...
and it would be a pain to explain to them now that Apache OpenOffice
or Apache Office will be installed instead, even if it is the same
thing... It was exactly the same problem as changing to LibreOffice,
the name is a key reason not to change.

If there is a technical problem with blogs... then it should be solved
technically, not by changing the name of the product.

Javier


Pavel Janík wrote:
Why? Out of the folk on the OOo forum who expressed an opinion to
me, no one liked it. It was a perpetual reminder that the product
couldn't be called what they really wanted it to be called:
OpenOffice. I greatly prefer Apache OpenOffice to Apache
OpenOffice.org.

The product and the project WAS OpenOffice.org. If we want to change
it, then why not directly Apache Office?



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