On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 20:21 +0300, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Javier Sola wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:43:17 +0700: > > If Apache forced this without discussion it would be a bad start for > > the project. > > You're misportraying the facts; it's a preexisting Apache policy that > predates OOo being proposed as a podling. > > Now, we're generally reasonable people here, and the podling can always > request an exception (talk to trademarks@).
> But, with my Member hat on, > this collective "Let's join Apache, but not be called Apache, and not > work with existing Apache entities" spirit leaves a rather bad taste. I'm not saying we the community, should not be called Apache whatever. Nobody is down on Apache, but I just don't want to dilute the strong brand of the #product#. OOo has a very strong market share in the Office Suite Software Consumer market. http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html It is important that we maintain that share and grow it. There is a large community: 35,000 individuals subscribed to OOo maillists when I last checked, Louis may have more up-to-date numbers Around 800 have signed the JCA/SCA Scores possibly Hundreds of Millions of Users worldwide and growing All this under the OpenOffice.org Brand. There has been a lot of noise around LibreOffice with those Linux Distributions who used Go-OOo now distributing with LO, but those numbers, compared to OOo across all platforms are miniscule and I believe that will remain the same unless of course this stalling of development, forced on us by Oracle, continues or the brand is modified violently so that we have re-establish our brand right from the beginning. In our consumer market tacking Apache on the end would do just this. This not a slight on Apache or lack of appreciation for their efforts thus far, just a statement of the circumstances. Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.
