Am 07/12/2011 01:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Graham Lauder<[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 20:21 +0300, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
Javier Sola wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:43:17 +0700:
If Apache forced this without discussion it would be a bad start for
the project.
You're misportraying the facts; it's a preexisting Apache policy that
predates OOo being proposed as a podling.
Now, we're generally reasonable people here, and the podling can always
request an exception (talk to trademarks@).
But, with my Member hat on,
this collective "Let's join Apache, but not be called Apache, and not
work with existing Apache entities" spirit leaves a rather bad taste.
I'm not saying we the community, should not be called Apache whatever.
Nobody is down on Apache, but I just don't want to dilute the strong
brand of the #product#. OOo has a very strong market share in the
Office Suite Software Consumer market.
http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html
It is important that we maintain that share and grow it.
There is a large community: 35,000 individuals subscribed to OOo
maillists when I last checked, Louis may have more up-to-date numbers
Around 800 have signed the JCA/SCA
Scores possibly Hundreds of Millions of Users worldwide and growing
All this under the OpenOffice.org Brand. There has been a lot of noise
Yes, under the Apache brand. But also under the Obama presidency and
under the Chinese Year of the Rabbit. We don't know what is
coincidence versus a real essential cause and effect relationship. In
other words, we don't know if we'd have the same number of users, or
even more, with a different name.
These seems like something we could debate endlessly without
resolution. But I wonder if a more definitive answer might come from
Then we should come to a result. I tried to asked this in my mail on the
10th.
a survey of users and other market participants, looking at branding
perceptions, trying out a few variations on the name, seeing which
ones elicit the most positive responses. I'd be happy to yield to
facts.
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I don't think that yet another survey will bring better results than the
last mails here on the list. ;-)
Marcus
around LibreOffice with those Linux Distributions who used Go-OOo now
distributing with LO, but those numbers, compared to OOo across all
platforms are miniscule and I believe that will remain the same unless
of course this stalling of development, forced on us by Oracle,
continues or the brand is modified violently so that we have
re-establish our brand right from the beginning. In our consumer market
tacking Apache on the end would do just this. This not a slight on
Apache or lack of appreciation for their efforts thus far, just a
statement of the circumstances.
Cheers
GL
