IMO, any ordinary user who stumbled upon this list (ooo-dev) would be 
frightened away immediately. This list is totally unsuitable for user support. 

--Jean

On 23/08/2011, at 19:02, "Marcus (OOo)" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wasn't there consensus to wait for new mailing lists until there is really a 
> need to split up the things?
> 
> When we would follow this way, then we have to wait until the messages on 
> ooo-dev@ from normal users grow up too much.
> 
> Otherwise we would create a mailing list for (currently) nobody. ;-)
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> Am 08/23/2011 01:46 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> The changes are good at showing where we are as developers.
>> 
>> The unfortunate point is that [email protected] is still a functional 
>> list with several posts in a day and the change is hiding that list.
>> 
>> Until there is [email protected] we shouldn't hide users@ooo.
>> 
>> Does anyone think we should wait to create ooo-users?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 08/23/2011 12:50 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 22, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 08/22/2011 11:45 PM, schrieb Andy Brown:
>>>>>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>>> @all:
>>>>>>> If there is somewhere else a place that should be updated (and I've
>>>>>>> write access) please let me know.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have access, maybe on the mailing list page on the OOo site [1]
>>>>>> or [2]. If not then post a message to the list that your on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] http://support.openoffice.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry, for the support area I haven't write access. However, it would be 
>>>>> sufficient to delete the "Users Mail List" row and to keep the "General 
>>>>> OOo Mail Lists" row as it points already to the modified webpage.
>>>> 
>>>> We are acting a little quickly.
>>> 
>>> Really? ;-)
>>> The ooo-dev@ mailing list is present since months. For the same long time 
>>> the old MLs have lost a lot of users/posts.
>>> 
>>>> Shouldn't we have an [email protected] before we delete the 
>>>> Users Mail List on the OOo site?
>>> 
>>> The data is still there. It's just the collected link list that is no 
>>> longer present/visible.
>>> 
>>>>>> [2] http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there something else that needs to be changed? Normally it should be 
>>>>> fine already. ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> The old version is carefully hidden here [3]
>>>> 
>>>> [3] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/www/mail_list.html
>>>> 
>>>> Until we move the users@ooo list I think that needs to be added back to 
>>>> [2] and then [2] checked into to [3].
>>> 
>>> But until this all isn't live it won't help to bring over the possible new 
>>> dev's. I think it's OK to start now to point to the new mailing list(s).
>>> 
>>>> BTW - Creating the support area is one of the next items in the podling 
>>>> site. [4]
>>>> 
>>>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/support/
>>> 
>>> Marcus

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