It strikes me that the list at the end of your note is best supported on openoffice.org where it now is, probably updated over time as the Apache podling graduates to Top-Level Project. It is where people already know to go.
The only question, for me, is how much native-language support goes on the developer side, on i.a.o/openofficeorg/ . - Dennis SPECULATION - THINKING OUT LOUD Looking at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/de/ I see these things: 1. It looks like the Mithelfel? sidebar links to English-language pages could come to the equivalents at i.a.o/openofficeorg instead. The German language wiki would remain part of the openoffice.org wiki. Some links (Blogs, QATrack) are already to non-existent targets and they can be removed if there is no replacement . 2. Probleme? could also be done in such a way that there is not duplicated content. Is OOo-Wiki a separate German site? Can it remain so or is it on OO.o infrastructure? "Das Team" might be set up differently depending on how we either divide responsibilities or find some Apache Way approach to the same support concepts. We need to do something about TCM (Test Case Management) and Localization (Glossar) links. 3. German language pages like "Office Suite" and "Betriebssystemen" can stay there or not. I prefer there. 4. Everything else can stay on de.openoffice.org. 5. I THINK ANYTHING THAT EXISTS SIGNIFICANTLY APART FROM THE INCUBATOR PROJECT should stay on de.openoffice.org. Since it is development that is now in an incubator, those activities that are essential to the incubator should be linked to on the incubator web site. Anything that really doesn't require incubation (but some transposition of support and custody) should stay out on openoffice.org if possible. 5.1 This will matter when there are releases from the incubator. They will probably need to be distinguished from standard releases and downloads of incubator releases might be qualified differently. 5.2 When the podling graduates, there can be re-convergence on the full-up production of stable releases, etc. I expect we will have restored rich localization by that time as well. This is all speculative. I'm sure there are other ideas about how to separate these materials with minimum duplication and also limiting what has to go through heavy-duty incubation. Also, there are governance matters to deal with concerning Apache and PPMC responsibilities regarding OpenOffice.org. -----Original Message----- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 16:41 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [discuss][www][wiki] Native-lang sites was Web, WIki, and Participation Am 08/29/2011 01:04 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > I want to be clear that when I say preserve and support openoffice.org I mean > *at* domain name openoffice.org, whatever infrastructure it is hosted on. Ah OK, got it. > I don't have a problem with quickly deleting the pages at > <http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/de/> that we would not keep as > part of the Apache site, but I think it is more difficult than taking an axe > to some pages and not others. > > I would expect that one wants to do something harmonious at de.openoffice.org > as well, so the two German Language views are complementary and perhaps > cross-referenced. You mean 2 webpages/sites/domains for the same language? Hm, what would be the difference between each other? Wouldn't it be better to just have one? I think yes. > And we still need to determine how to keep openoffice.org alive as an > operating domain. The current list is not that wrong to start as it still fit: * I want to learn more about OpenOffice.org [Link to some documentation] * I want to download OpenOffice.org [Link to the download portal] * I need help with my OpenOffice.org [Links to support pages and channels] * I want to do more with my OpenOffice.org [Link to the extension repo] * I want to participate in OpenOffice.org [Link to the developer webpages here at Apache] Marcus > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 15:37 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [discuss][www][wiki] Native-lang sites was Web, WIki, and > Participation > > Am 08/29/2011 12:23 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > [ ... ] >> 3. I thank Rafael for that effort. It gives us a reality check on all >> that is involved and how we need to consider some sort of differentiation >> between the openoffice.org face to the world and the kind of face to the >> world from a development project that is more appropriate on apache.org. I >> think both are critical for openoffice.org. > > AFAIR we wanted to bring over the entire website content and then look > what is OK and can survice. So, what is not Apache compatible we have to > delete now. > > Otherwise we would start with some pages discuss many things and could > make 1-2 pages per week which wouldn't be very motivating. ;-) > >> 3.1 As we find more and more cross-dependencies, I maintain that there >> is good cause to preserve and support openoffice.org as the face to (and >> from) the broader community of adopters, evangelists/marketers, and >> institutions/businesses that are engaged with openoffice.org. > > +1 > > Marcus > [ ... ]
