OK, I truly hate to make a comment like this, but... eric b, any chance you could take your issues with Louis somewhere other than this list? This is, I believe, the second personal rant I've seen like this, and I, for one, don't really feel it's appropriate for the venue. Thanks.
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:01 AM, eric b <eric.bach...@free.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > > Le 19 nov. 11 à 06:29, Louis Suárez-Potts a écrit : > > > As the guy who created the education project on OOo, >> > > > As admin : you added one project. But everybody knows you systematicvaly > were admin of everything in OpenOffice.org. Everybody knows that nobody can > be lead of several projects like you were, say .... seriously. > > Back to the Education side, you even did obstruction when we started to > improve thing, with your friends, who today moved to the TDF. Worse : you > did everything to avoid people to see their expenses founded, to attend > conferences. > > There was always money for you, even for the (crappy) Community Council > doing the fest at Bruxelles, with people today at TDF, and obviously no > result ... (everything is in the archives). > > > Another fact: you forced us (Education Project) to move a mailing list, > without the possibility to manage it. Again with your friends today at TDF. > > > > > > and who has long championed the goal of not only helping thru education >> new contributors but also of using education to promote FOSS, >> > > > How can you pretend that ? Since you are in the middle, we have no news > from the Seneca College. Is that the contribution you mean ? > > > And Yes: in OpenOffice.org, only you found the money to found the expenses > for attending conferences. So it was easy for you to say what you want. > > Worse: I watched all the conferences, and in two years, you NEVER > mentioned the Education Project goals (the one we wrote at > http://education.openoffice.**org <http://education.openoffice.org> ) , > or even my name nor Alexandro one in all the presentations you did about > the Education Project. > > You simply represented yourself (I'd say your company), but not the > Education Project, and I'd advertise the Apache people to not believe > everything you pretend. > > > Important: I'd mention that Alexandro Colorado was a very good and trusted > ambassador of Education Project > . > > > > OOo and the ODF, I naturally think it's vital to have it. >> >> But what would be its remit? >> >> I would suggest we clarify goals. I would also like for us to work, >> whenever possible, with Apache's extant efforts in this area, and with >> cousin projects, like Mozilla. The more we team up, coordinate, collaborate, >> > > > The problem is that you acted as a proxy, not sharing the information with > active people. It was a cancer for the Education project, because nobody > was informed of what you told, what you did. > > As summary, I'd suggest Apache people to stay extremely prudent with you, > and invite them to wait for proofs. > > > > Eric Bachard > > > > -- > qɔᴉɹə > Projet OOo4Kids : > http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/**index.php/Main_Page<http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page> > L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org > Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news > > > > > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -- Mohandas Gandhi