On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Joe, > > Great. I've created a URL redirect list which I'll attach to INFRA-3933 as we > discussed.
I also updated - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/DNS,+Virtual+Hosts+and+Redirects > > I made the list in the following format - the first three are special and > following is the pattern for the rest of the well over 100 subdomains. > > FR Forum will be happy about the first. Rob should note both contributing and > security will begin to go to the podling site. > > qa.openoffice.org > redirectMatch permanent /issues/(.*) https://issues.apache.org/ooo/$1 > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/qa/$1 > > contributing.openoffice.org > redirectMatch permanent (.*) > incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-involved.html > > security.openoffice.org > redirectMatch permanent (.*) incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/security/ > > aa.openoffice.org > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/aa/$1 > > about.openoffice.org > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/about/$1 > > af.openoffice.org > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/af/$1 > > am.openoffice.org > redirectMatch permanent (.*) www.openoffice.org/am/$1 > > .... > > Other redirects anyone? > > With this information you should have everything ready to do the switchover > when the word is given. > > It would make people happy to have the first qa.oo.o redirect and those for > contributing.oo.o and security.oo.o immediately. > > Regards, > Dave > > > On Dec 11, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> All set. Just did a full site build and it went thru no trouble. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Joe Schaefer <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:45 PM >>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites >>> >>> I'm working with Gav to get the timeout upped as that's what's >>> causing the builds to fail (long delays when the built site gets >>> checked back in). I will let you know once I have things ready >>> for you to make mass changes to the ooo-site. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Dave Fisher <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:32 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why don't you just decide to make the current ooo-site live, >>>>> and tell infra to change dns for www.openoffice.org to point >>>>> at it? >>>> >>>> There is an outstanding question about exactly how the extensions and >>> templates >>>> authenticate users. It is being investigated. >>>> >>>> Also the subdomain map needs to be built. >>>> >>>>> I've made some performance enhancements to the CMS today so >>>>> web checkouts will only take a few seconds as opposed to 30min. >>>> >>>> That's wonderful! >>>> >>>>> Also I will be working on your site's build because it is in a >>>>> terrible state, but that will take more time. >>>> >>>> Too much was committed at once. >>>> >>>> So, we don't collide let me know if you are working with templates or >>> lib, I >>>> am (or was) about to play with that part. I am really effin, tired of >>>> being >>> >>>> yelled at at repeatedly by Rob. >>>> >>>> When I'm done with my plan nearly every html file in ooo-site will be >>>> updated, how do you want to co-ordinate that? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Dave >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Rob Weir <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Cc: >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:55 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Dave Fisher >>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Dave Fisher >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've already answered. I've been very clear. >>>> Nothing has >>>>>> stopped others from working on ooo-site. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I apologize if I was not clear. I'm not interested in >>> >>>> editing >>>>>>>> ooo-site.apache.org. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And I happen to think that this is absolute nonsense. ooo-site >>> will >>>> be >>>>>> www.openoffice.org when the time comes. Waiting is a bogus excuse. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To the extent that you continue to not understand what I am saying >>> I >>>>>> will continue to repeat myself, attempting various ways of >>>>>> reformulating my point. >>>>>> >>>>>> I want to update www.openoffice.org. I do not want to update only >>>>>> your test server. I want the changes I make now to be reflected >>> on >>>>>> the public, user facing openoffice.org website after a simple >>> staging >>>>>> and publication stage, i.e., near real time, no more than a few >>>>>> minutes delay. That is what the project needs. This is what we >>> all >>>>>> need. The fact that we can can easily update ooo-site, a staging >>>>>> website that no user actually ever sees is a partial success only. >>>>>> >>>>>> What I hear you saying is that we're free to update the data >>> in >>>>>> /ooo-site and that will then appear on the test staging server. >>> That >>>>>> is nice. But the changes that you, me and others have made on >>> that >>>>>> content is not being seen by real users. It is stuck in limbo. >>> We >>>>>> can invite committers to stick more content into limbo, of course, >>> to >>>>>> queue it up for publication at some indeterminate point in the >>> future. >>>>>> But I'm more interested in what we need to do to get the >>> content >>>> out >>>>>> of limbo and live on www.openoffice.org. How do we complete this? >>>>>> >>>>>> So this is not about ooo-site. This is about the complete >>> publication >>>>>> pipeline. That is what matters for the PPMC's ability to >>> properly >>>>>> manage the www.openoffice.org website. Nothing is live until the >>> PPMC >>>>>> can effectively update the real site. >>>>>> >>>>>> Remember, what our users have on www.openoffice.org is very wrong >>> in >>>>>> many places. We're continuing every day to harm the project >>> if >>>> that >>>>>> content remains as-is and is not replaced by accurate project >>>>>> information. The fact that some of the content is corrected in >>> SVN >>>>>> or on ooo-site is not enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> If at all possible, I'd urge us to take a "release early, >>> >>>> release >>>>>> often" approach to the website migration rather than a >>> "big >>>> bang >>>>>> integration" approach. >>>>>> >>>>>> What is the minimum that really needs to be done to make this site >>> go >>>>>> live? And how can I, and anyone else who is interested in >>>>>> accelerating this work, help? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Rob >>>>>> >>>> >>> >
